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Ukraine needs America’s help
Washington Post ^ | January 29 at 8:12 PM | Steven Pifer and Strobe Talbott

Posted on 01/30/2015 12:35:40 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

"Eight former U.S. national security practitioners — the two of us, plus former U.S. representative to NATO Ivo Daalder, former undersecretary of defense Michèle Flournoy, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine John Herbst, former deputy undersecretary of defense Jan Lodal, former NATO European commander James Stavridis and former U.S. European Command deputy commander Charles Wald — come together issuing following recommendations for immediate action. (releasing Monday report: “Preserving Ukraine’s Independence, Resisting Russian Aggression: What the United States and NATO Must Do.”)

First, White House and Congress must commit serious money to Ukraine’s defense: $1 billion in military assistance this fiscal year, followed by additional $1 billion each in fiscal year 2016 and 2017. Congress should not only authorize assistance, as it did in the Ukraine Freedom Support Act last year, but also appropriate funds.

Second, U.S. government should alter its policy and begin providing lethal assistance to Ukraine. Most of the above funds would go to nonlethal assistance. For example, the Ukrainian army desperately needs counter-battery radars to pinpoint the source of enemy rocket and artillery fire, which cause about 70 percent of Ukrainian casualties.

But the Ukrainians also need some defensive arms, particularly light anti-armor weapons. The antitank missiles in the Ukrainian inventory are more than 20 years old, and a large proportion of them do not work. U.S. anti-armor weapons could fill a crucial gap.

Third, the U.S. government should approach other NATO member states about assisting Ukraine, particularly those countries that operate former Soviet equipment and weapons systems compatible with Ukraine’s hardware. If the United States moves to provide lethal assistance, we believe that some other NATO countries will do so as well.

Time is urgent. Spring arrives in three months in eastern Ukraine, and fighting could then achieve new intensity. We should help the Ukrainians deter that."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 201501; crimea; donetsk; russia; russianscum; stevenpifer; strobetalbott; ukraine; washingtonpost
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To: tcrlaf

The fugitive on the run ex-President is welcome to return, he would get a fair trial, he absconded with billions.

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/russians-protest-putin-election-fraud/

“With St. Basil’s Cathedral in the background, protesters wave a red flag as a symbol of revolution as they march during a mass rally to protest against alleged vote rigging in Russia’s parliamentary elections in Moscow, Russia, Saturday, Dec. 10, 2011.

Russians angered by allegedly fraudulent parliamentary elections are protesting Saturday in cities from the freezing Pacific Coast to the southwest of Russia, eight time zones away - a striking show of indignation, challenging Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s hold on power.”

Putin is an elected fraud so let’s not hear this complaining about elsewhere.


61 posted on 01/30/2015 4:00:20 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: tcrlaf
No, not your crap again.

A sI said, there was a free election.

Yanuckovich himself signed off on early elections, and then they had early elections and chose their president.

62 posted on 01/30/2015 4:01:04 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: BeadCounter

So is Barack Obama...
YOUR POINT???


63 posted on 01/30/2015 4:01:05 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: FreeReign

AFTER THE COUP...

Jesus, what is with this history rewrite crap??


64 posted on 01/30/2015 4:01:44 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf
AFTER THE COUP...

Yanuckovoch signed off on early elections while he was still president.

Jesus, what is with this history rewrite crap??

You take the name of the Lord as you lie.

65 posted on 01/30/2015 4:05:07 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: BeadCounter
The fugitive on the run ex-President is welcome to return, he would get a fair trial, he absconded with billions.

Absolutely correct.

66 posted on 01/30/2015 4:06:15 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: tcrlaf

It is NOT the Ukrainians that lie sir.. your posts often are shall we say irregular!?!?!

BUDAPEST MEMORANDIUM under NPT:
NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY (NPT)—signed 1968, came into force 1970: An international treaty (currently with 189 member states) to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. The treaty has three main pillars: nonproliferation, disarmament, and the right to peacefully use nuclear technology.

UKRAINE disarmed and joined the NPT as non-nuclear weapons states:

[BTW: Between 1946 and 1999, the United States completed nearly 16,000 international agreements. Only 912 of those agreements were treaties, submitted to the Senate for approval as outlined in Article II of the United States Constitution.

Since the Franklin Roosevelt presidency, only 6% of international accords have been completed as Article II treaties. Most of these executive agreements consist of congressional-executive agreements.]

But, of course it must be like the LIBERAL compliance with the Bible.. a Shmorgishborg for compliance to choose what you want!


67 posted on 01/30/2015 4:08:00 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: FreeReign

This crap has been going on for almost a YEAR now.

In that time, almost everything you have claimed has turned out to be wrong, dishonest, or an outright LIE.

So save the trolling, no one buys it, anymore.


68 posted on 01/30/2015 4:08:15 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

Exactl.. posters simply tire of your Pro-Putinista vitriol


69 posted on 01/30/2015 4:10:46 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Jim Noble

I like your thinking.


70 posted on 01/30/2015 4:11:56 PM PST by Usagi_yo (It's not possible to give success. Only opportunity. Success is earned on it's own right.)
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To: FreeReign

You are TOTALLY on point!

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” Ronald Reagan


71 posted on 01/30/2015 4:12:41 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: tcrlaf

Project much? You dumbass lying Putin butt kisser.


72 posted on 01/30/2015 4:12:49 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Jim Noble
Borders come and borders go. It would be in Ukraine's best interest to side with NATO and be brought under its protection. I think people have more freedom under our banner than under Putin's.

I just checked and in the event of a draw I have the seniority here!

73 posted on 01/30/2015 4:20:23 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All
This treaty was signed by three nuclear powers the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom which provided security assurances to maintain Ukraine sovereignty by the fact that they were signatories to this agreement.

There is no such treaty, nor has such a treaty ever been presented to the United States Congress for ratification...Ukie propaganda to the contrary notwithstanding.

74 posted on 01/30/2015 4:21:23 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
There is no such treaty, nor has such a treaty ever been presented to the United States Congress for ratification...Ukie propaganda to the contrary notwithstanding.

It's called the Budapest Memorandum. And just because it wasn't ratified by the US doesn't negate the fact that Russia signed off and agreed to it.

75 posted on 01/30/2015 4:31:21 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: mac_truck

FIRST:
Budapest Memorandum reinforced obligations that all of the signatories had already legally agreed upon by signing the UN Charter!!!

SECOND:
BUDAPEST MEMORANDIUM NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY (NPT): Is an international treaty shared now currently with 189 member states to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. The treaty has three main pillars: nonproliferation, disarmament, and the right to peacefully use nuclear technology.

THIRDLY:
The Memorandum promised signatories respect for the independence, sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine and refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine.

[BTW: Between 1946 and 1999, the United States completed nearly 16,000 international agreements. Only 912 of those agreements were treaties, submitted to the Senate for approval as outlined in Article II of the United States Constitution.

Since the Franklin Roosevelt presidency, only 6% of international accords have been completed as Article II treaties. Most of these executive agreements consist of congressional-executive agreements.]


76 posted on 01/30/2015 4:52:33 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: FreeReign
It's called the Budapest Memorandum.

Correct...and what is the agreement signed in Kiev by Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyahnybok, Yanukovitch, and the foreign ministers of France, Poland, and Germany on February 21 2014 called?

77 posted on 01/30/2015 5:04:59 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Since you are such a constitutional scholar now, perhaps you should stand before the Supreme Court and try selling it to them??

Jeeze......


78 posted on 01/30/2015 5:08:53 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Was this “treaty” ratified by the Senate?

I didn’t think so. Just more Clinton hot air.


79 posted on 01/30/2015 5:13:56 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Sawdring

Nice to chat with a fellow 98er.

Right now, NATO couldn’t protect anybody.


80 posted on 01/30/2015 5:15:45 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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