Posted on 01/28/2015 10:52:49 AM PST by Star Traveler
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I suspect Windows Vista, Windows 8, and just Microsoft's general tone deafness have had a lot to do with Apple's market share increase
They are having a bargain sale today. It won't stay down there. The company's fundamentals are still ok.
What are you talking about??? Apple does not spy on its customers. Google does. That's its business model: they collect data on their users and SELL the data to their real customers, the advertisers. Apple's customers are the people who buy their hardware. . . not advertisers. Apple has explicitly stated that they do not not monitor the personal activities of their customers. . . or read their emails. Google does. Apple cannot even decipher the data its customers store with them. . . or access it on their Apple devices. . . or even help them retrieve it, if they forget their pass codes. Frankly, you do not have a clue what you are talking about.
I have looked high and low, and I have not found anywhere in Apple's business model where Apple is an Operating System vendor. Not anywhere. Apple is a COMPUTER MANUFACTURER and VENDOR, not an OPERATING SYSTEM VENDOR. . . They have, in the past sold UPGRADES to already installed Operating systems, that were already licensed, and the licenses for those upgrades are quite explicit that they can only be installed on an Apple Computer made by Apple. The courts have upheld this license language in Apple v. Psystar, at both the trial and appellate court levels. Sorry, Apple is NOT an OS Vendor.
As to allowing Apple's OS X to run on any hardware but Apple's, what Apple has to sell are the unique functionality of their hardware, their OS, and user interface that are all designed to work seamlessly together. Apple's model of business is NOT Microsoft's or Linus Torvald's Linux and it is not intended to work on just any conglomeration of hardware.
Ergo, Apple will NOT allow their OS to be licensed to operate as a "guest OS" nor will they support it, on any other hardware than what they manufacture. If you want to run OS X, buy an Apple.
UH, Windows phone has 2.4% in the world and shrinking. . . Mac has 14% and growing in the US. . . and about 8% and growing in the World.
Update it to the latest iOS 8.1.3 released yesterday. My girlfriend has an iPad 2, and it works great. iOS 8.1.3 made it work even better.
"Child's Toy"?
REALLY?
My "child's toy" can run every single Windows program you have. . . in fact, my "child's toy" is running THREE versions of Windows, XP, 7, and 8.1, as well as two versions of Linux, in addition to its native UNIX, and OS X.10.2. Mowowie, that is SEVEN operating systems. . . and I have run all seven simultaneously just to show I could do it, under OS X in sandboxes. In addition I have several more OSes around that can be run should I need them to support my clients including MS-DOS 3.6, Amiga-DOS, THEOS, and a couple of more which can be run in Virtual machines also in sandboxes. That is SOME "Child's Toy". . . which is what you called it only because you are ignorant of its capabilities.
Let's take a look at these people who don't think the Macs are "toys." These particular people are rocket scientists and engineers, specifically the people who were responsible for landing the Curiosity Rover on Mars. . . and let's look at the computers they have chosen as their personal computers:
. . .which the engineers bought with their own money. So much for the Apple products are "Child's Toys" meme. . . Now, some on FR have claimed these Macs are not running Apple's operating system. . . so let's take a closer look to make sure they are:
Looks as if the one who doesn't know what he's talking about is you. Why don't you learn something about Macs before you denigrate them based on hearsay from other people just as ignorant as you are?
Apple Macs are extremely powerful computers.
You'd still have a Windows machine. . . and anyone who has left Windows for a Mac, doesn't really want to go back. Nor do the vast majority of consumers want to be geeks building their own computers.
OK, here's your challenge. Go to Newegg and build a Windows all-in-one computer equivalent to the new $2499 27" iMac 5K. . . be aware that the screen alone in the Windows world sells for $2495. No 4Ks will be accepted. Must have wireless keyboard and mouse.
How long ago did you use them in education?
Not legally. . . but Apple doesn't particularly care if you want to build a hackintosh. They won't go after you unless you attempt to manufacture and sell them for profit. . . like Psystar did.
I agree with everything that you said.
I received my first Allied (Radio Shack) “solid state” electronics kit in 1970. My first computer was a TI99-4A. In college I got to play with terminals connected to a “main frame”. I also had a Timex Sinclair 1000, a Spectravideo, an Atari, several Tandys, a couple of Commodores and helped friends with their Apple IIs all before I put together my first XT compatible computer which used MSDOS. By that time I had given up on the family lumber mill business and gone back to school and got a job working as a computer lab assistant. So I am lucky because over the years I have gotten to work with a lot of digital equipment as it evolved from the first rudimentary digital IC kits up to the incredible equipment we have these days.
However, I must admit that discussions on forums like this where people debate various operating systems tend to baffle me most of the time. Are people really Operating System Connoisseurs or is it just meaningless chatter? I have worked with dozens of Operating Systems over the years. I never have had any serious difficulties with any of them. In my opinion the importance of various operating systems is generally greatly exaggerated.
I must admit that I do enjoy trying out different Operating Systems. For years I always had at least two or three Operating Systems on every computer that I owned. This is largely because a lot of times a new OS is not compatible with programs that I own. I could reboot into which ever one fit my needs at the time. Now even our tablets and phones have various emulators installed that mimic some of the various “nostalgic” computer systems that I used to use. We also now have various virtual machines installed on our PCs.
I actually enjoy fooling around with different Operating Systems but I am the first to admit that from a practical standpoint most of the time they just don’t make that much difference from a practical standpoint. Some of the new changes introduced actually are useful, but a lot of the time the changes are more for advertising hype than productivity.
For the record I never had any difficulties with Windows ME, or Vista. I have had difficulties with some of the irritating changes Microsoft has made to Office Applications over the years. It is fairly easy to get Windows 8.1 to behave like Windows 7. Just like it was fairly easy to get Windows 7 to work like Windows XP. And graduating from Windows 98 to Windows XP was no big deal either. I have to admit that I just don’t like most of the Linux productivity programs as much as I like the ones you can get for Windows. The way that Android Apps are constantly being updated can be irritating and all the Microsoft updates can also be annoying. However, most of the time it is possible to turn off auto-updating on everything.
The most irritating thing to me is when Microsoft changes their Office Applications... it sometimes irritates the heck out of me. Maybe it is because when I am actually trying to do something productive I don’t feel like fighting with the program. For instance why in the world did Microsoft make it difficult to change the line spacing options in Word and Publisher a few years ago? While graduating from the first versions of Photoshop over the past 20 years I don’t remember finding irritating changes that were time consuming to figure out. The same is true of audio and video editing programs.
So while it is fun to debate the merits of various Operating Systems... to me their differences seem trivial most of the time. As long as they can support the programs that I am using without trouble I usually don’t care that much about the OS.
Sorry for the long rambling post.
Apple sold 5.56 million Macs in just one quarter. There are almost 100,000,000 Macs in the installed base plus over 1 BILLION iOS devices. There are 265 Apple stores in the US, and they are open 364 days (closed Christmas) and each of them have about 6 Genius bar positions with 1/2 hour appointments from 10 to 9 daily. If all of those appointments at every store are filled, that's 12,732,720 service appointments a year, to cover 1.1 billion users. That's approximately 1.15% of users.
The number of people complaining in the forums is even smaller.
December ChangeWave survey: 97% iPhone satisfaction rate
December ChangeWave survey: 98% iPad Air satisfaction rate
Tim Cook: "iPad customer satisfaction is off the charts. 100% in some surveys. Unheard of."
Those both go along with that analysis.
Obviously you have never used any Apple products. . . that would explain your ignorant post of that graphic.
I remember when the cheese on a Filet-o-Fish was thick enough that you couldn’t see the grain of the bread through it.
That was before Nixon’s price controls.
Huge presence in the half-billion revenue mid-size enterprise I work for. Constantly amazed at number of MBP and iPads in all departments. And growing every year. Full integration of Mac Outlook into Exchange server helped a lot, too.
It’s a good metaphor. Dell machine I use at work w Win 7 is a disaster. Many times a day I get weird behavior ranging from simply annoying to full freezes and crashes. Dell warranty repair is useless. Reinstall helps a while, but it takes days to get things back the way I want them, reinstall custom dictionaries, macros, template docs, etc.
Other users have it even worse with the machines just shutting down.
Endless virus scans turn up nothing most times.
Putting an SSD in my Dell laptop helped a lot and shortened the interminable startup to something livable.
MBP at home runs MONTHS between reboots.
One could also argue that in an internet world the OS doesn't matter. But I would instead argue that in an emacs and bash world (which run everywhere) the OS doesn't matter. But that's just me.
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