Posted on 01/28/2015 6:43:01 AM PST by HammerT
Watch them try to decree any kind of metal to be under their control.
In both socialism and fascism, the gov’t controls the means of production and distribution,
but under the working definition of socialism, the gov’t actually visibly OWNS the means of production and distribution.
Fascism is the tyrant’s coward’s way. They get total control, but when that inevitably and invariably fails, they can blame the private business owner for the hardships.
Now, socialist apologists will try to say that pure socialism entails “the workers” owning the means of production and distribution. But how are decisions made? Some centralized authority still, and that would be a government, and that would invariably mean there is no “socialism” as they define it. Only communism.
I would note the near obsession Brits had for confiscating arms from citizens. Gen. Gates blew a gasket when his subordinate failed to secure them.
“And dress properly when reporting to me.” :>}
Do you want to know how stupid ATF is? Stupid is dangerous especially when they’re in a position of power and authority.
Here’s an example...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rEuTwYALho&feature=player_embedded
Seriesly ?
In both socialism and fascism, the govt controls the means of production and distribution,
but under the working definition of socialism, the govt actually visibly OWNS the means of production and distribution.
Fascism is the tyrants cowards way. They get total control, but when that inevitably and invariably fails, they can blame the private business owner for the hardships.
Now, socialist apologists will try to say that pure socialism entails the workers owning the means of production and distribution. But how are decisions made? Some centralized authority still, and that would be a government, and that would invariably mean there is no socialism as they define it. Only communism.
[I quoted your words to keep a hold of in case I need them for future reference hope you dont mind]
But take a look at the definition of the word Socialism in the Oxford dictionary:
Definition of socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or REGULATED by the community as a whole. policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
Note the phrase: owned or REGULATED by the community as a whole.
In that case the government merely CONTROLS the means of production without having to own said means i.e. Fascism.
Gun Control = waiting until the target is within range. :-)
"Do you know that one of the great problems of our age is that we are governed by people who care more about feelings than they do about thoughts and ideas. ― Margaret Thatcher
Yeah, that dictionary definition of socialism is what your average “occupy” sheeperal believes will be implemented under their utopia.
It never works that way, it can’t work that way.
“owned or regulated by the community as a whole”
Oh! Kumbaya!
Nope, won’t work. A strong centralized authority will invariably arise and subjugate that “community as a whole”.
Fact is, Socialism doesnt work.
Think of it as a science experiment that has been conducted in multiple locations, time periods and conditions and EVERY time has been the same result Failure.
Consider this Bill Whittle on the subject:
The Loch Ness Monster is a “cryptid” — something rumored to exist but without actual proof. The Socialist Utopia of the progressives is a cryptid too. In his latest Firewall, Bill Whittle shows why Good Socialism, like the Loch Ness Monster, is a giant, air-breathing creature that (conveniently!) NEVER COMES UP FOR AIR.
Published on Sep 25, 2014
LOCH NESS SOCIALISM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422411861&x-yt-cl=84924572&v=FvfHLr5aEqU&feature=player_embedded
Then every plumber or pipe fitter needs a license as the pipes can be made into a slam fire shotgun so easy!
Hint: Thread only ONE END of each pipe. If you thread both, they might say you are making a pipe bomb.
Give them enough time they will try that.
Just think of all the bakers who could make flour into a bomb.
There is no end to how much they could try to control.
The Demonrat National Communist party also thinks that all Republicans/Conservatives act like Boner and McTurtle.
In this they are quite wrong.
That indeed.
We want people who’s balls are fully inflated.
The burden of The Road to Serfdom is just that NAZIism and Communism are birds of a feather. Reading it put me in mind of a movie I had seen on TV (but failed in my effort to Google it up) in which two counselors to the Sultan are walking together, and two teenagers are belaboring each other. One counselor remarks to the other, They fight as only half-brothers can. And so it was between the Third Reich and the USSR.Serfdom was written before the Holocaust was known, yet FA Hayek predicted - on the basis of the similarities between Communism and Fascism - that dark evil things would be found done by the NAZIs in analogy to the Soviet Gulag, which was publicly known of before the war (if not by that name). For example, Will Rodgers went to the USSR, and wrote about seeing a trainload of people being dispatched to Siberia . . . and nobody had a ticket back but the engineer."
Hard to have anything to register/confiscate when all the manufacturers, importers, and retailers have been driven out of business.
They’ve realized that breaking the supply chain is far more effective than trying to enact end-user bans. The “but I can still make one” argument is moot as it entails such small numbers of anything resembling “modern” as is irrelevant. “FMCDH” means little when you can’t obtain, fix, or feed anything worth holding.
Bump
Well said.
Check out this video on the cooperation of the Socialist workers party people in Germany and the Socialists in the USSR:
Soviet started WWII Together With Nazi Germany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL15BEB3143796F5D5&feature=player_detailpage&v=K2hg2MO6Te0
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