Well, without guns there are alternatives. Like dowels used for closet clothes hangers. Easier with guns, tho'.
Posted on 01/23/2015 7:29:40 AM PST by rktman
This is where we find ourselves now. Every citizen in Europe and the UK faces the risk of an Islamic attack merely while going about normal day-to-day business. UK citizens in particular face this risk whilst being denied weapons of self defense. In the past I have fully and enthusiastically supported the UK’s complete ban on hand guns. But immediately after the killing of Lee Rigby I began to reconsider the wisdom of that ban and I now utterly oppose it. As things stand in the UK, hand guns are illegal. For those shotguns you could own, extremely strict licensing specifically disallows self defense as a motive for ownership and so the old adage “In countries where guns are illegal, only the criminals have guns” is the frankly mad situation we now have in the UK.
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Once you give up your rights its hard to get them back. Never forget that.
But it's uncomfortable to have such talents. I know juts how poor Cassandra felt.
Careful. A particular Scotsman may respond about the guns that were donated to the UK during WW II. :>}
2 down.
100,000,000 to go
Maybe? 2 million unborn children tortured to death every year? Satan disguised as "allah" gets protection under the Constitution while Christ is forbidden in education, media, govt? Fags have the right to force themselves on society but society doesn't have the right to tell them they're demented?
Yeah, I'd say it's too late.
A shotgun is an effective home defense firearm. But not in U.K. where defensive gun use results in automatic arrest.
Better judged by twelve than carried by six, I guess.
U.K. police have WAY too much discretionary powers IMO.
For the record ,i was a firearm owner. 22,357/38,44/429.
They could be out on patrol.
The numbers are amazingly Low.
Conservatism is the understanding that many rights & norms are the result of hard-won high-cost lessons, and that just because you don’t understand why they’re in place doesn’t mean one can flippantly dismiss them without having to learn, again at great cost, to enact & enforce them.
As I approach half a century on this planet, I’m seeing such cycles of opposition, prohibition, suffering, discovery, and restoration. Unfortunately the idiots who opposed & rediscovered the issue often think they’re the first ones to learn the lesson, failing to further learn from those who already know such things about other topics.
A shotgun is an effective home defense firearm. But not in U.K. where defensive gun possession results in automatic arrest. :) :(
Sounds like the way Israel lives.
The NRA helped save England’s butt once. We will not do so again, absent substantial change in their laws. They need to adopt a “Second Amendment” type law. Now...
So it was ok when it was just poor people living in crime ridden neighborhoods who lived in fear with no way to defend themselves. Now that journalists, JOURNALISTS I TELL YOU, actually have to live in fear guns in the hands of the citizenry seem like a good idea. Well let me tell this fool that his betters in the upper crust, the ones with the armed body guards, the one's who's lies he regurgitated in print, the ones he helped take away guns in the first place, find him quite expendable.
The lack of familiarity with firearms would have to be overcome since most(?) there no longer have a rudimentary understanding of firearms use and safety. Except what the see in the movies of course. Sorry sad state of affairs that we (collectively) have become too dependent on the state to protect us (collectively). Even sadder is the apathy shown by so many that they choose not to want to protect themselves. My 5 bob 4 and a ha’penny. :>}
Well, without guns there are alternatives. Like dowels used for closet clothes hangers. Easier with guns, tho'.
Check the Israeli weapons/firearms laws for the average citizen. They are NOT what you would expect.
Depends. If emergency caller states guns involved, armed units are of course sent, not normal police. If normal police arrive as a routine call and suddenly guns appear, they will back off (a bit), seal exits and routes and call in armed units. Normal police in the UK are now routinely armed with 50000v tasers.
In Lee Rigby’s case (and it looks as if callers DIDNT mention the gun, just that he’d been stabbed), the normal police arrived in 3mins, the armed in 9 minutes, after the former called for armed support.
He should have sued. He could have applied for (or already had??) a pistol licence, and if so could have kept it at home.
This is a myth, one I have posted about many times on FR. I am a historian by qualification/trade, have researched this, and the US arms were not thrown into the sea, they were melted down for British war production, in 1944, as they weren’t needed and the Home Guard was being disbanded. The sea myth is complete nonsense. And if you think about it for a second, would make no common sense anyway.
1—Its not gun free. Handguns on the mainland were banned after 1997, rifles and shotguns legal. 2.3m legal guns in the UK, down from 2.6m in 1996.
2—Its always been 999 here. As another poster said, average will be 3-5m.
3—If the emergency caller makes clear guns are involved, armed units and officers will be sent, instead of normal officers (who are armed with 50000v tasers).
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