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To: DoodleDawg
The Court, in granting cert., actually said that it will decide two questions: (1) does the 14th Amendment require all states to permit same-sex marriages, and (2) does the Constitution require all states to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states. Question 2 is irrelevant if the Court answers question 1 "yes." So, my own bet is that: the Court will answer question 1 "no" but will answer question 2 "yes"; and that both rulings will be 5-4, with Kennedy in the majority in both.

In effect, this will legalize same-sex marriage in all 50 states, but it will require gays in states like Oklahoma to travel out-of-state to have the ceremony performed; Oklahoma will then have to recognize their marriage when they return. This will permit Kennedy to both legalize same-sex marriage everywhere while still saying that he hasn't abandoned states' rights.

33 posted on 01/16/2015 1:42:13 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

How can states be required to recognize same sex marriages from other states if their own laws prohibit them? It’d be like states being forced to allow hookers to ply their trade because they’re from Nevada.


41 posted on 01/16/2015 1:47:09 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If that is the ultimate decision, does it, in your legal analysis, set a precedent for all states having to honor concealed-carry permits (i.e. state-issued licenses) from any other state?

Some have argued that since states are able to define degrees of crimes (e.g. felonies) that are similar but ultimately different among the several states that states will continue to have that discretion.

I’m not sure that is an apt comparison because many states reciprocate and honor CCPs from other states. While some states may coincidentally have the same definition of degrees of crimes, they don’t legally recognize another state’s definition of said crime within their own prosecutory system.

Honoring another state’s CCP is more akin to honoring any other license issued by another state.

Take me to the woodshed if you must.


77 posted on 01/16/2015 2:30:17 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

This is the first response I’ve read that said what I’ve been thinking. Maybe Kennedy thinks he can legalize it nationwide this way (hmmm, guess he can), but .... Was going to say it won’t be accepted by those states, but, on reflection, there won’t be any way for them to show their non-acceptance. Oh, lawd!


158 posted on 01/18/2015 12:04:27 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

it does matter because while recognition may be required, it upholds the right of notaries not to have to condone that type of conduct.

It all boils down to whether the USSC will buy the propaganda myth of born that way.


166 posted on 01/22/2015 2:13:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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