[DiogenesLamp]

It was but one example. I never said marijuana use, historically, was as widespread as alcohol. But marijuana is not without its own users, across multiple countries & cultures, for centuries. Despite your lies/claims.

They are not even SLIGHTLY comparable. Alcohol consumption/acceptance throughout history is a million times more significant than was/is Marijuana usage. It is intellectually dishonest to even suggest a comparison between the two, but from long experience arguing with Libertarians, I have found that intellectual dishonesty appears to be a ubiquitous trait.

Perhaps another drug - opium - that enjoyed widespread use centuries ago would be more to your liking as an example?

If you want to talk about Opium, i'm perfectly ready to talk about Opium and the millions of people it has killed and the societies it has destroyed. We all know this "legalize marijuana" topic is just a stalking horse for overal and widespread legalization of all drugs.

Only in your world do I need to do that. Nobody else really cares what a Big Government advocate on a conservative message board thinks.

And as always, Libertarians trot out the "You are a "Big Government" advocate when you simply state that it is within the normal mandate of government to stop chemical weapons from infecting the population. I am not for "Big Government." I am for the exact amount necessary to do the job "Government" is supposed to do, and the primary thing that it is supposed to do is to maintain it's own existence and protect it's people from dangerous threats.

Any government which tolerates drugs will not be a government for very long. It will collapse with the rest of society as happened in China when drugs were legal there.

It will of course, be followed by a dictatorship (again as it happened in China) and all those "Freedoms" you people have been prattling about will be completely gone.

Please do. I am in awe of your powers of persuasion & debate tactics.

Well see there, you don't even know how this game works. It would take a fool indeed to think any rational argument or evidence would persuade, so that is obviously not the attempt here. The effort is to mock and ridicule stupid ideas until other non-Kool-aid drinking people can recognize the ideas as stupid and ridiculous.

We are playing "The Dozens" because I long ago realized that rational debate was an utter waste of time.

And ridiculous claims like this are exactly why people continue to tune out drug warriors.

No worries, they wouldn't listen to Cassandra either.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Any government which tolerates drugs will not be a government for very long. It will collapse with the rest of society as happened in China when drugs were legal there.

And we all know how much better China is now.

I will ask again. Have you ever smoked marijuana?

[ConservingFreedom]

The effort is to mock and ridicule [...] I long ago realized that rational debate was an utter waste of time.

Thanks for outing yourself, troll. I remain confident in "non-Kool-aid drinking" FReepers that they are more reachable by rational debate than by mockery and ridicule.

protect it's people from dangerous threats.

You've drunk the Kool-Aid of government's consistent excuse for its power grabs.

[gdani]

It is intellectually dishonest to even suggest a comparison between the two, but from long experience arguing with Libertarians, I have found that intellectual dishonesty appears to be a ubiquitous trait.

This is quite a hoot coming from someone who breathlessly proclaims marijuana causes all its users to lose the ability to exercise free will and/or turns them into serial killers.

I actually like when you post to WOD threads because you do far more harm to your cause than good.

So, in all seriousness, please keep posting away.