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To: DoodleDawg

>>>Instead of just innocent civilians. <<<

In this case, no “innocent civilian” was harmed. A homeless, scumbucket, who caused a 4 hour standoff with police (funny that they waited 4 hours before “killing him in cold blood”) who was armed with 2 knives and ignored multiple commands to get on the ground.

Any armed man who won’t comply with commands when 3 rifles are pointed at him, is clearly a potentially dangerous individual.

Why couldn’t the ahole just drop his knives and get on the ground?


28 posted on 01/12/2015 1:03:54 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Above My Pay Grade

the 4 hour standoff works against the cops, not for them. If the shooting happens in the first minutes, it means things were out of control.
4 hours gives you time to prepare for moves like that, bring up beanbags, pepper spray foggers, dogs can be ready to release and bite, etc.
After 4 hours, any move he makes should run into a solid counter. He shouldn’t be shot barring him charging and attacking, and the less lethal having poor effect.

The reality of that video is that he was an A-hole, but he was a stationary A-hole that he made no move to attack. His “attack” was standing in a defensive/surprised posture after a stun grenade, a lunging dog, and a cop holding the dogs lead.
And the BooYah business was an embarrassment. The bottom line is that Reid and Malloy would have handled this better. This never needed a rifle squad of cops dressed like paratroopers.


33 posted on 01/12/2015 1:18:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
A homeless, scumbucket, who caused a 4 hour standoff with police (funny that they waited 4 hours before “killing him in cold blood”) who was armed with 2 knives and ignored multiple commands to get on the ground.

So his crime was not immediately obeying police orders, for which he was tried, convicted, and had the sentence imposed within a matter of minutes.

Why couldn’t the ahole just drop his knives and get on the ground?

Why did the aholes have to shoot him? Especially when there was non-lethal alternatives on site, i.e. the beanbag rounds?

35 posted on 01/12/2015 1:24:36 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Above My Pay Grade
"Any armed man who won’t comply with commands when 3 rifles are pointed at him, is clearly a potentially dangerous individual."

Cops don't get to shoot anyone because they are "potentially dangerous". Maybe that's where you are confused.

49 posted on 01/12/2015 2:03:45 PM PST by mlo
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To: Above My Pay Grade
a potentially dangerous individual.

The threshhold is not POTENTIALLY dangerous, you moron. EVERY human is POTENTIALLY dangerous. They could have easily ended it within 4 hours using less than deadly force. The fact that, with bean bags and tasers and dogs and outnumbering him greatly and having him trapped for 4 hours, they STILL could not get him under control, even with him "not following orders", says far far more about the cops than it does about the homeless idiot.

If I'm on the jury, I vote for murder charges.

77 posted on 01/12/2015 11:35:59 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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