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To: Monorprise
The Constitutional Convention of 1787 was not an "outlaw convention". Read Federalist #40 (and our commentary on it) in which Madison explains how the Philadelphia Convention did exactly what it was supposed to do and allowed to do by the authority of the states.

As I pointed out, if an Amendments Convention decides to ignore Congress and the Supreme Court and meet anyway under its own rules in defiance of those two institutions, it would be considered a "meeting" and not a "convention" legally recognized under the Constitution. Nobody will stop that meeting, but its work will be ignored. Article V hands certain choke points to Congress, and Congress will take advantage of that.

How to "force" Washington to respect it moves into an area where the government has the advantage via a standing army, the NSA, drones, WMD's and a Mainstream Media slavishly devoted to it. To apply "force", we need to begin an educational effort right now to cut the ground out from under the Washington establishment. To its credit, the Convention of the States movement is doing that right now.

128 posted on 01/10/2015 1:38:07 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
I don't see any congressional choke points.
129 posted on 01/10/2015 1:47:00 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Publius

“How to “force” Washington to respect it moves into an area where the government has the advantage via a standing army, the NSA, drones, WMD’s and a Mainstream Media slavishly devoted to it. To apply “force”, we need to begin an educational effort right now to cut the ground out from under the Washington establishment. To its credit, the Convention of the States movement is doing that right now.”

I see your point and concede that the Washington establishment thou a display of despotism and force could stimmy the judgement of our States in Convention.

I do not however believe that they would be able to do so, particularly after our Starts start holding votes or radicalizing conventions involving the people directly.

The press can bury this story for as long as they want but the people will get the message when they actually vote, and they will expect that vote to mean something. Just as the Citizens of Arizona did.

As for the military, that is a rather extremely unlikely Scenario the result of many years and conventions of States attempting to enforce the Constitution, during which a period we would have to have done precisely as you had suggested in informing the public of the Constitutional crisis. I doubt very few in the world would not know about whats going on here and many of them will have taken sides.

It is practically beyond immigration that Washington would let it even go down that path much less get to that point before conceding to do their duty. The damage to our Elites own prised reputation as democratic leaders would be irreparable.

Instead the Washington Elite will at the beging as soon as it is clear they cannot stop us try anther way to control or hijack the process of which there are many.


131 posted on 01/10/2015 2:26:58 PM PST by Monorprise
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