Posted on 01/07/2015 9:47:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
call it a cult if it makes them feel better. Would they be in support of banning this cult from existence? This cult that preaches hate
THIS APPROACH WORKED AGAINST THE MORMONS AND WOULD WORK AGAINST THE MOSLUMS.........
the EdmundsTucker Act of 1887 touched all the issues at dispute between the United States Congress and the LDS Church. The act disincorporated both the church and its Perpetual Emigration Fund on the grounds that they fostered polygamy. The act prohibited the practice of polygamy and punished it with a fine of from $500 to $800 and imprisonment of up to five years. It dissolved the corporation of the church and directed the confiscation by the federal government of all church properties valued over a limit of $50,000.
In July of the same year, the U.S. Attorney General filed suit to seize the church and all of its assets. The act was enforced by the U.S. marshal and a host of deputies. The act:
Dissolved the LDS Church and the Perpetual Emigrating Fund Company, with assets to be used for public schools in the territory.[9]
Required an anti-polygamy oath for prospective voters, jurors and public officials.
Annulled territorial laws allowing illegitimate children to inherit.
Required civil marriage licenses (to aid in the prosecution of polygamy).
Abrogated the common law spousal privilege to require wives to testify against their husbands[10]
Disfranchised women (who had been enfranchised by the territorial legislature in 1870).
Replaced local judges (including the previously powerful Probate Court judges) with federally appointed judges.
Removed local control in school textbook choice.[citation needed]
In 1890, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the seizure of church property under the EdmundsTucker Act in Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States.
The church was losing control of the territorial government, and many members and leaders were being actively pursued as fugitives. Without being able to appear publicly, in the 1880s the leadership was left to navigate “underground”.
Following the Edmunds-Tucker Act, the LDS Church found it difficult to operate as a viable institution.
Who remembers El Cid, starring Charlton Heston? I saw it first run at the Strand in Summit, NJ, for 35 cents.
Takeaway: “Then this will be more than a battle! This will be your god ... against mine!”
... funny, the things you remember.
bump
Indeed
Do you think our elites wont punch the door buttons to let the killers in to shoot us? They already have. They already have.
Yes, and they will lie, cheat, and steal in order to disarm us in the face of those killers, warbling piously that it's for our own good and for that of society. This is more than a simple political difference. If we allow it we'll be the poor sods on bicycles blowing whistles at killers with AK-47s, and the Left will be telling us we deserved the bullets in our heads.
And I sit here with Fox News on low and I’m thinking between all the 24/7 talking heads and talk radio all we do in some weird Orwellian process is TALK stuff to death. It’s the five minutes of hate thing. Terrible slaughters happen by utterly predictable perpetrators but nothing will be done so blab until the next big news item buries it. Good God what a strange world we’ve become. I can barely stand the madness anymore. And Fox has to have the token muzzie on every 15 minutes to tell us all they are a religion of peace...aaagh
Only, our elites were never forced to open that door — they did it with their own volition.
Needs to be repeated, to those who wish to disarm us and tell us to call 911 and the police for help. You are better off owning firearms to protect yourself. The villains do not fear the police.
I share your sentiments. Insanity reigns and evil is embolden.
I agree.
>> Do you think our elites wont punch the door buttons to let the killers in to shoot us? They already have. They already have.
Quote of the year.
Without regard to practical considerations or consequences, the only apparent way to end this cycle of violence would be mass expulsions. I doubt that any liberal democracies are willing to face up to that challenge, nor would it be very easy to get support even from most conservatives, let alone all centrists and progressives. Yet what else can we do? Loyalty oaths for people who believe it is okay to lie in the service of their god? Selective explusions? Based on what criteria? The world of Islam is only partially transparent at the best of times, it lacks structure and today’s moderate can easily be tomorrow’s radical.
I would say this — mainstream Muslims, if they truly exist, should do the math and realize that it would not take much more of this extreme barbaric violence to sicken enough of the population that mass expulsion might become a viable political option. I don’t think it has quite reached that level yet (outside of a few isolated groups in society and I would have to admit I am in that state myself at this point).
These actions cannot lead to anything but a breakdown of peaceful relations between the so-called mainstream and the society around them, whether deserved or not (and I would say partly deserved at least due to the lack of a coherent disavowal of the violence, it’s always mealy-mouthed excuses about what can you expect etc, coached by liberal mentors who want to drive wedges into society for their own reasons).
Great writer and thinker!
If (when?) Islamic terrorists try that in many parts of the United States, at least a few decent people will be armed. Not the cartoonists, of course, but a secretary, a maintenance worker, or an accountant will have a CCW permit, and we’ll find out how an AK and body armor do against a handgun and surprise. Five minutes is a long time, and it’s a lot longer if the terrorists do not have the French guarantee that they are safe in a “gun free zone”.
There is no lawful solution to this problem once this murderous cult take hold here as it has in Europe. Only random sniping and burning down their mosques will have any effect and I am not sure who will take on that task.
Actually, that's exactly what it says - provided you aren't already "of Islam" and won't convert.
Howard Dean is still stupid.
“well find out how an AK and body armor do against a handgun and surprise.”
A terrorism expert wrote recently that a handgun will buy you about 5 minutes of time in a typical terrorist attack. That five minutes may be enough time for the calvary to arrive.
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