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To: papertyger
"Are you removing her from the chain of causation?"

Go to the first link like Travis has. It is the root cause. The mother is a victim just like the 12 that died.

“Distinction without difference...and you want to talk about intellectual dishonesty?Do you even know what it means?”

Yes. I know there is a huge difference between a seasoned old paratrooper and a young mother.

I know it is intellectually and morally pathetic to blame a young mother because you expect her to act like a seasoned old paratrooper. A seasoned old paratrooper who says he will "sacrifice himself to save 12 others" doesn't have the right to demand that a young mother do the same.

I also know it is intellectually dishonest to set up fallacious hypothetical questions to beat others over the head with.

253 posted on 01/07/2015 3:34:18 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman; Travis McGee

I am not Travis, nor do I subscribe to the “root cause excuses the action” theory. I don’t expect a mother to be a seasoned paratrooper, but neither do I expect fatuous excuses for a woman of the west “passing the buck” by virtue of her motherhood.

Either western women are the moral and philosophical equivalent of men, or they are not. Insipid name-calling in avoidance of that stark choice is another kind of cowardice, in and of itself. They don’t get to “ask for help” as well as “tell you how to do it” apart from the kind of intellectual dishonesty you are personally promoting.


258 posted on 01/07/2015 3:48:04 PM PST by papertyger ("News" is what journalists want to say.)
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