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The End of a Free Internet?
nationalreview.com ^ | Jan. 3, 2015 | Josh Gelernter

Posted on 01/03/2015 6:38:50 PM PST by PROCON

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To: PROCON
... Because we are now putting the final finishing touches on the brand new Socialist States of America ... we now need exciting creative ways to mine the money coffers from society ...... Heck ..... Why do you think booze in Canada is over twice the price than is here in the US? And why do you think gasoline in Canada is 1.50 a gallon more than here in America?

.... These are all things we all have to look forward to here in America .... The difference being ... in America ..... we will see little or nothing in return for our added socialist expense!

.... Yup .... We're really going to enjoy all of the "Free" healthcare and exciting new degenerated society ... aren't we folks?!?!!

21 posted on 01/03/2015 7:25:16 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Dallas59

Thanks for the explanation.


22 posted on 01/03/2015 7:35:13 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

The Internet is just that...inter connected computers. Like the telephone. No one owns the the entire global phone system. Different companies from different countries all connect together. They just charge you differently for the same services. Internet ISP’s would love to charge you extra for looking at different websites or playing games. Used to be data was free...now your limited....and now you pay extra for that “freedom”. If Comcast doesn’t like a certain set of websites (Conservative) they may charge you extra(slam) your bill for going there under the excuse that it caused too much “congestion.


23 posted on 01/03/2015 7:44:16 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: ifinnegan

You betcha. And it isn’t naïve on Zero’s part, because he is not who he claims to be, and he is promoting a lot of things intentionally to our destruction. Naïve, no.


24 posted on 01/03/2015 7:45:22 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: ifinnegan
This is a big deal. And much more dangerous than Net Neutrality.

Maybe. And I have no doubt that this is the camel's nose. However, I think that ultimately it will fail, and will lead to the legitimization of TOR-like networks that operate outside of ICANN. There really isn't much that they could do about that, if TOR (or a similar network) started to carry a significant amount of legitimate traffic.

These days, there really isn't any reason that ICANN is a monopoly (granted, not a commercial one). And neither is there a reason for ICANN's functions to be centralized. The free market will win out.
25 posted on 01/03/2015 8:03:56 PM PST by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: Dallas59

” If Comcast doesn’t like a certain set of websites (Conservative) they may charge you extra(slam) your bill for going there under the excuse that it caused too much “congestion.”

This, of course, is nonsense. Pigs “may” fly, but will they?


26 posted on 01/03/2015 8:09:37 PM PST by Mr. Peabody
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To: PROCON

gubmint out of the internet!


27 posted on 01/03/2015 8:10:01 PM PST by sagar
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To: Mr. Peabody

Dear XFINITY Internet Customer:

At Comcast, we recognize that our customers use the Internet for different reasons and have unique data needs. Starting September 1, 2013, Comcast will trial a new monthly data plan in this area, which will increase the amount of data included in your XFINITY Internet Service to 300 GB and provide more choice and flexibility.

What this means for You

The vast majority of XFINITY customers use far less than 300 GB of data in a month. Based upon your recent usage history, it appears this new data plan will have no impact upon you, and you won’t need to do anything, or change your Internet usage. If you are not sure about your monthly data usage, please refer to the Track and Manage Your Usage section below.

We want our customers to use the Internet for everything they want and your service will not be limited to 300 GB . While we believe that 300 GB is more than enough to meet the Internet usage needs of most customers, Comcast will automatically add blocks of 50 GB to your account for an additional $10, should you exceed the 300 GB included in your plan in a month.

In order for our customers to get accustomed to this new data plan, we are implementing a three-month courtesy program. That means you will not be billed for the first three times you exceed 300 GB included in the data plan during a 12 month period. Should your usage exceed 300 GB a fourth time during any 12-month period, an additional 50 GB will automatically be allocated to your account and you will be billed $10 for that data and each additional 50 GB of data in excess of 300 GB during that month and any subsequent months your usage exceeds 300 GB.

Please note that this is a consumer trial. Comcast may modify or discontinue this trial at any time. However, we will notify you in advance of any such change.


28 posted on 01/03/2015 8:14:59 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: PROCON
"We're from the government, and we're here to help."


29 posted on 01/03/2015 8:41:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PROCON

Look at your phone bill and see all the taxes, surcharges and government fees that are applied. If the FCC were to regulate the Internet like telephone service don’t think for a minute that those same taxes, fees and surcharges wouldn’t be tacked on your bill.


30 posted on 01/03/2015 9:38:15 PM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: dfwgator

We knew that there was a “Reichstag Fire” in the future. This may be it. Just a word to the wise.. Anytime they [Governments] stop ones ability to communicate, said Governments are about to do something bad to their, it used to be Citizens but now they consider us civilians. Prudent people will know what do when this occurs.


31 posted on 01/03/2015 9:46:50 PM PST by sport
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To: Hostage

I’d find it just as outrageous if the US gubmint decides, or nearly so, which you know is also on their wishlist.


32 posted on 01/03/2015 10:19:55 PM PST by tubalcane
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To: Dallas59

So what if they do?


33 posted on 01/03/2015 10:20:06 PM PST by tubalcane
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To: PROCON

34 posted on 01/03/2015 10:25:23 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Dallas59
If Comcast doesn’t like a certain set of websites (Conservative) they may charge you extra(slam) your bill for going there under the excuse that it caused too much “congestion.

As was already pointed out, that is garbage. But here is why. For access to be restricted that access would actually have to cause "too much congestion", not just as an excuse but in reality. The reason is that any service or access can be accessed by embedding it in any other service undetectably (by Comcast or anyone else). There is an exception of course, and that is streaming video. It is impossible to stream video undetectably except in even higher bandwidth streaming video.

Comcast has every right to throttle streaming video, both from a business standpoint and from a moral standpoint. That's because streaming video is entertainment or just drivel. As one example, CNN s is streaming video, and it is of course garbage. If you however want to disseminate or view a video for 1st amendment reasons and Comcast wanted to censor it, then that video could be transmitted more slowly in embedded in any other content or service. It would undetectable and unstoppable by Comcast or anyone else short of completely disconnecting your internet service. It would not be streaming live but that is of little value particularly when considering 1st amendment purposes (dissemination)

35 posted on 01/03/2015 11:32:54 PM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: PROCON

“But this time, Congress has warning...”

It has had warning nearly EVERY SINGLE TIME - and fat lot of good that has done us.

Also posted tonight:

Muslims get their knickers in a twist over Facebook and Twitter
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/internet/index

As well as http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3243293/posts


36 posted on 01/04/2015 12:09:13 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Worse than so-called net neutrality.


37 posted on 01/04/2015 3:37:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Dallas59

“Used to be data was free”

TANSTAAFL.


38 posted on 01/04/2015 4:51:12 AM PST by tubalcane
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To: PROCON

Many here don’t seem to realize the danger of this. The U.N. has been pressuring us for years to do this, George Bush told them to take a flying leap because he knew how this could hurt America’s national security. Of course, Obama is eager to weaken this country and is happy to turn ICANN over to the international community.

The problem is that ICANN is like the old telephone communication switchboard. Nobody “owns” the internet, true. But you can have servers, and networks and internet providers galore.... if the ICANN directory or “switchboard” that connects everybody to everything is run by a non-friendly entity, you are dead in the water if they abuse that authority.

He who controls ICANN controls modern global communications. The U.S. invented the Internet and developed ICANN so has kept it under the authority of the U.S. which has run it in a neutral capacity. The U.N. doesn’t like that U.S. having that power so wants us to give it up to the control of an international board.... the same type of anti-American lunatics that put Iran on the U.N. Human Rights Council.


39 posted on 01/04/2015 5:35:06 AM PST by Tamzee (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tamzee

I see more taxes on the horizon, aimed directly at internet users. Bend over folks, here it comes again.


40 posted on 01/04/2015 5:43:16 AM PST by DaveA37
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