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Why Are We Importing Our Own Fish?
nytimes.com ^ | June 20, 2014 | PAUL GREENBERG

Posted on 12/30/2014 7:15:12 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

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To: Nervous Tick

bread and circuses/beer and football/irresponsible sex and pot


21 posted on 12/30/2014 7:32:26 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: FatherofFive

That you know of.


22 posted on 12/30/2014 7:35:27 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Nervous Tick

I do live in the country and I do have a pond, a very small one. First owner should have dug it deeper.

I do have largemouth in there, a few in the 3 - 4 lb range. kids catch them and throw them back. I’d like to add catfish to eventually catch/eat, but the pond is too small.


23 posted on 12/30/2014 7:36:26 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: Nervous Tick

“Sure you can. Move to the country and push up your own pond.”

That is fast becoming illegal, and enforced, unlike illegal immigration.


24 posted on 12/30/2014 7:36:30 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: Minutemen

Its ironic isn’t it - when we have a 50 year low in labor participation, record users of food-stamps, 20 million illegals in the country, and a real unemployment rate that’s probably still 10%+

We can’t find anyone to process American fish cheap enough?


25 posted on 12/30/2014 7:37:15 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ilovesarah2012

We have so many environmental regulations is the main reason. Also, fishermen are limited as to how many fish they can catch. My daughter goes out on boats and counts the fish, also if they net more than a few dolphins they have to go home. She has to cut up the dolphins to send to the gov’t.


26 posted on 12/30/2014 7:39:52 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: rhubarbk
Interesting: (...Obama administration released new guidelines...)
27 posted on 12/30/2014 7:40:21 AM PST by yoe
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To: PieterCasparzen
people still think globalism is a wacky conspiracy**

Conspiracy? No, reality. Why would our leaders, born and raised in the heartland of America, oversee the largest transfer of wealth in world history from American families to a communist country technically our enemy? hmmm?

Poverty rate in America exploding. More Americans on gubbamint assistance than any other time in our brief history as a nation.

Sure, its about business, but I submit it is more about power/greed. Capitalism....all for it. What we have now resembles capitalism with massive corruption world wide.

Business? Maybe, but we have a national security situation on our hands. Unless we have our leaders negotiate FAIR trade agreements, require worker safety, slave labor laws and laws protecting the Chinese/Indian/Taiwanese water and air, business as usual will continue to be as crooked as the day is long....all for power and greed.

28 posted on 12/30/2014 7:40:28 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: ilovesarah2012

NOAA and EPA regulations are designed to destroy American jobs and businesses.

UN Agenda 21


29 posted on 12/30/2014 7:42:48 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Nervous Tick; Blue Collar Christian

There in lies the problem. But you knew that!


30 posted on 12/30/2014 7:43:04 AM PST by rhubarbk (Cruz/Gowdy 2016)
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To: thackney

I’m sure without FDA regulations there must be huge cost saving involved. Scares the hell out of me when I pick up a package that says “product of China”.


31 posted on 12/30/2014 7:44:25 AM PST by mouse1 (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: mouse1

“It was explained to me by someone knowledgeable when I asked why Alaskan Cod comes from China.”

More likely it is caught by a Chinese boat and processed/filleted /frozen on board. The frozen final product is dropped off at a US port. Maybe a Walmart frozen food distribution center

It is not sent to China for processing


32 posted on 12/30/2014 7:45:10 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: mouse1

As is the case with many industries, not just those for edible consumption.


33 posted on 12/30/2014 7:46:28 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: rhubarbk

The public can be pathetic, and the elite know it and act upon it.


34 posted on 12/30/2014 7:46:50 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: mouse1
What does this place look like it gets processed in?

What do you think?

Can that really be cost effective?

Apparently.

Haven’t we learned with all the dogs that died from tainted dog food that maybe, just maybe this isn’t a good idea?

Nope.

35 posted on 12/30/2014 7:51:11 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Gold and Silver are Real Money, Accept No Substitutes)
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To: ilovesarah2012

We have so many environmental regulations is the main reason. Also, fishermen are limited as to how many fish they can catch. My daughter goes out on boats and counts the fish, also if they net more than a few dolphins they have to go home. She has to cut up the dolphins to send to the gov’t.


36 posted on 12/30/2014 7:52:52 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: servantboy777

But our CEOs keep telling us they have to move production, engineering and computer work off-shore or they can’t compete. It isn’t just politicians.


37 posted on 12/30/2014 7:53:42 AM PST by pas
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To: roofgoat

I have about an acre of pond. It has been cleaned out and is deeper now.

My understanding is, below a certain size, a pond does better with catfish (and some kind of perch) than it does with bass. So that’s how I plan to proceed.

I doubt we’ll ever harvest a lot from it, but it’ll be nice to have the option.


38 posted on 12/30/2014 7:54:26 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

>> [pond building] is fast becoming illegal

Probably depends on where you live.

Around here (rural Central Texas), it’s not a problem. (*Unlike* illegal immigration...)


39 posted on 12/30/2014 7:58:12 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; ilovesarah2012
"It got me wondering why we import so much seafood. Hot Tabasco:"I'm sure govt. over regulation on our domestic fishing industry might have something to do with it......."

EXACTLY TRUE !
NOAA , under the Sect. of Commerce, imposed a system of "Catch Shares" on American fisheries, despite specificly instructed by Congress to not implement this program.
"Catch Shares" restricted the amount and number of fish caught by Commercial and Recreational fishermen; this program brought about the demise of the New England fleet.
With NOAA reductions in the number of fish brought inshore, the commercial viability of the fleet was bankrupted, and "Catch Shares" could be bought at reduced price.
Many of thses catch shares were bought up by foreign contries and 'non-profits'(ie: PEW Foundation,etc.)
Amerian fleet fishery was bankrupted by FEDGovt. restrictions, and bought up by foreign nationals whereby they could processed more cheaply
in offshore fishing processing fleets, or, processed on the foreign shores, and then shipped to the U.S.
NOAA ,under the "Catch Share" program, implemented Lubchenko's scheme to bankrupt American commercial fisheries, and subsequent "shares" were sold to foreign nationals.
It is said that 95% of Snow crab legs caught in U.S. waters are "shares" owned by the Chinese, and processed in offshore fleets which are at sea for 3 months each,
and then turned around and sold in American markets as 'American Wild' even though the 'shares' are owned by Chinese, processed offshore by Chinese fleets.

40 posted on 12/30/2014 8:07:16 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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