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To: SeekAndFind

Here is where FReepers all turn on me. Sliding into my ash-covered flameproof overalls..,.

Children whose gender identity doesn’t match their gender are innocent children. They really feel the way they feel. IN MY OPINION after experience with these kids, they are exactly the same as children with ADHD or born addicted to drugs or born with Diabetes 1 or even cancer. THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM hormonally / neurologically. They can’t help this and it is not directly their parents’ “fault.”

It is important to allow these children as normal a childhood as you can. Just as we make changes and allowances for kids with cerebral palsy and Down Syndrome we need to include kids with gender differences in our world. We don’t force kids with known, named disabilities to do things they can’t do.

REMEMBER, as conservatives, we hate the gay AGENDA pushing us in politically correct directions. This agenda is keeping us from calling gender differences “disabilities,” which would be correct.

I know very well that these kids, and there are MANY MORE OF THEM these days, to where your family’s next generation may well be affected, can’t help the way they deeply feel. They show these preferences right away, as soon as they transition from baby to toddler.

The Jolie - Pitts decided to accept their daughter’s wishes as they stood. She considers herself a “he.” This may last or it may not. I have seen it go both ways. But for now, the kid is heard, understood, and allowed to simply be. She is EIGHT. She has a gender problem caused by hormones in the uterus or plastics or fake sugars or who knows what in our environment is influencing these diseases of the sex centers in the brain and genitalia. There is an epidemic of defects in these centers, and something outside of this innocent girl is causing this.

Please, as conservatives, let’s focus on freedom. Let everyone parent THEIR WAY. If one of my children, no matter what I did, insisted they were the other gender, would I really want all my energies spent fighting what they feel? They are EIGHT!!!

Everyone who is about to flame me, please try this. Ask your doctor for the opposite gender’s hormone creams. After a month of men taking estrogen and women taking men dosages of testosterone, please come to me and tell me what you could not will away. How much less can a fetus will away, when she is being bombarded with the wrong stuff at exactly the window when her gender center is being CREATED? Now come after me. Take your best shots.


130 posted on 12/28/2014 3:06:30 PM PST by Yaelle
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For those here who are blaming the parents or who think Angelina is trying to make Shiloh a boy so she won't be more beautiful than Mama, please note that Jolie and Pitt have two smaller children, boy and girl twins, genetic daughter and son, and Vivienne is always dressed femininely.

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133 posted on 12/28/2014 3:17:54 PM PST by Yaelle
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Please, as conservatives, let’s focus on freedom. Let everyone parent THEIR WAY. If one of my children, no matter what I did, insisted they were the other gender, would I really want all my energies spent fighting what they feel? They are EIGHT.

Yaelle, there is something certainly wrong our environment (and I'm not talking about anthropogenic climate change) with GMOs, growth hormones in meat and milk, plastics, certain untested vaccinations and a plethora of harmful chemicals that people come in contact with every day. There are indeed more children born with indeterminate genitalia and we must be sensitive those who deal with this. However, this is not androgen insensitivity or Klinfelter's, etc., issue.

This is something else. Certainly, there are children who display characteristics which do not conform with their biological sex. There will be boys who act "girly" and girls who act "boyish." But you are conflating actual biological, intersexual issues with parents who will NOT do right by their children.

It is an atrocity to tell those children that simply because they act or dress a certain way, they were born in the wrong bodies. To tell them that their perfectly healthy sexual organs are a biological mistake and must be removed is evil. If the brain is at odds with the reality of their healthy sexual organs, then it is the brain that must be treated. Destruction of natural, orderly body is wicked.

I think in your noble need to be kind and supportive to innocent children, you are doing them a disservice in assuming that everything will be ok if we just let them be what they want to be, rather than conform to what they actually are.

A few years ago when my daughter went to dance class I met a divorced woman with three daughters. Her middle child was tomboyish, but looked in every way female and the woman proudly called the girl, "My son." Why could this woman not be proud of her daughter who was just not into dancing like her sisters, but enjoyed other pursuits?

And to say, well, Shiloh's only 8, she'll grow out of it, is not true. The first 5 years of a child's life are critical to forming their identity. Why do you think children are starting school earlier and earlier? It is so the state can form their minds, not parents. If Shiloh has been called John since she was 2 years old and treated like a boy all her life, despite the fact that her body is female, she will always relate to being a male, because that is what she has been raised to think herself as.

I know you speak out of kindness, but that sort of kindness leads to utter cruelty and lies. Yes, people have a right to raise their children as they wish, but they do not have the right to abuse their children. This is abuse, plain and simple.

140 posted on 12/28/2014 3:52:05 PM PST by two134711
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I am saddened to hear that there are kids getting help with this. I was a tomboy until the hormones kicked in at 15. Still love being outside, hate shopping, and am very mechanically inclined. I am also an artist. I used to worry about it when I found out about how a woman’s index finger is supposed to be longer than her ring finger. LOL

I just put my quirks up to me being a country girl unfortunate enough to be born in the Bronx. Yes I have thought about writing a country song about it. I love real men who are able to carry their brothers on their backs for miles, and always wanted 5 kids.

I wonder if the number of kids getting help with it are there because their parents are flipping out about it. We really should give moral guidelines to our kids but there isn’t anything immoral about girls playing football with their brothers because when she plays the teams are even.


163 posted on 12/28/2014 4:49:16 PM PST by huldah1776
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