[OneWingedShark]

Going back to the topic of the thread...
Will agree that should Conservatives be shut out of the process, as has been being done, and 2016 turns out to be a continuation of Conservatives being shut out of the process, clear messages will have been sent. Conservatives are sensing, just as you say Gleeaikin, that influence pedaling by/from both the left and right are throwing the People's Dream in the wastebasket along with the Constitution. How long the People that are witnessing these travesties shall sit still is anyone guess.

On that note, this article explains these dynamics quite well:
America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution

As to how long the people will sit still, I think we've been close to the spark for a long while; something big like another Boston-like martial law, or another Bundy ranch showdown certainly could do it, but it's equally possible that it will be a [comparatively] small thing that snowballs. (I wonder if proof came out that the US was arming terrorists if that would do it; the revelation of the NSA's domestic espionage operations seemed to come very close.)

[no-to-illegals]

don’t know OneWing ... where the spark is but no doubt the powder supply is growing. It may well come from the useful (useless) idiots but I, like you, believe the useless idiots are useless. Something has changed .... NY’s finest are saying much without saying anything today.