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If GOP establishment picks Jeb Bush for 2016, conservatives should bolt for another party
Absolute Rights ^ | 12/26/2014 | Jon E Dougherty

Posted on 12/26/2014 7:20:12 AM PST by SleeperCatcher

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To: 353FMG

And if Jeb is elected the result will be??? The same thing only the cheap ass beer version liberal instead of the champagne swilling out of the closet liberals that is the democrats.


141 posted on 12/26/2014 2:16:32 PM PST by sarge83
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To: arthurus

Then the question is not whether or not to settle for a kinder more functional tyrant but to pick the good or evil that is most likely to lead to revolution and thus correction one way or the other.

When both paths are phony seek other options. For us that means finding a 3rd party with a vested interest in opposition to Washington as a whole then creating an environment where they might politically be driven to act.

In this case we have states with state leaders willing to vote for convention and nullification. If we need a democrat in the white house to serve as political motivation then we can allow for that.


142 posted on 12/26/2014 2:21:53 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Texas Patriot61
The primaries start out in the Northeast and by the time it gets around to us it is largely over. THAT is what needs to change.

Ask yourself why it hasn't changed already, the answer is pretty clear.

143 posted on 12/26/2014 2:30:07 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Salvation
Handing the presidency to the dims.

You guys need to get a new tune if you expect us to dance with you again.

144 posted on 12/26/2014 2:31:40 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Carthego delenda est
There is NO other explanation for their fear and hatred of true conservatives.

If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." Mark Twain -

145 posted on 12/26/2014 2:32:39 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Problem #2) Conservatives will have to saturate the internet and dominate every communication medium (Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Tumblr, billboards, ads in Times Square, constant callers to local radio shows, ect.), and that means getting out of the comfort zone of FR and similar sites and engaging in battle online. We aren’t known for our skills in that realm, and we have far too many people that make excuses for not wanting to.

You summed it all up, VanDeKoik.

Nothing further...

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.




146 posted on 12/26/2014 2:38:16 PM PST by rdb3 (Meh! A hole-in-one is just an eagle. Sink an albatross!)
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To: OneWingedShark

>>The GOP isn’t an opposition party, they just play one on TV — at this point there’s nobody standing up for liberty, nobody standing against statism.

It’s only an opposition party during the election. Then it reverts back to being the Chamber of Commerce Wing of the Progressive Party, in “opposition” to the Organized Labor and Welfare Wing of the Progressive Party.

One side wants an impoverished, government subsidized labor pool and the other side wants an impoverished, government subsidized labor pool.

Freedom is not a part of their platform. Freedom makes people think they have value as an individual.


147 posted on 12/26/2014 2:39:21 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Carthego delenda est
I have come to believe that the GOPe does not care if their guy (Bush) wins the election.

Winning elections isn't easy. McCain didn't stand a chance after the economy tanked. And could Gingrich or Cain or Santorum or Bachmann really have won last time?

They (GOPe) and the libtards have become one party and are pulling off the greatest con job in our nation’s history, perpetuating the idea that ‘they’ are really giving us a ‘choice’ in the voting booth.

Certainly most of the time the two parties' candidates are closer to each other in views than most passionate Republicans and Democrats or conservatives and liberals are, but there has to be some reason why passionate partisans hate the candidate of the other party so much nowadays.

There is NO other explanation for their fear and hatred of true conservatives.

Is it really fear and hatred? If Newt Gingrich, say, is a true conservative and Karl Rove isn't, do they really hate each other?

148 posted on 12/26/2014 2:42:16 PM PST by x ("It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.")
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To: SunkenCiv
Reagan had the voters and had the votes, and then lost Congress again in 1982.

He lost congress because the pastel GOPe was feckless. They did pass a tax cut but little else, refused to even discuss conservative issues like abortion.

149 posted on 12/26/2014 2:45:40 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Slyfox
If 80% or 60% of the People wanted Common Core, it would be a settled issue and Jeb and others wouldn't keep fighting for it and insulting people who differ.
150 posted on 12/26/2014 2:46:10 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: dsc

We want to be the party of yes!
151 posted on 12/26/2014 2:52:06 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: certrtwngnut
West is ignored because the rule of thumb is that if you can't succeed in winning lower level elections (see Alan Keyes) you'll never win a presidential election. Reagan succeeded in many elections---SAG president, governor of CA, actually had more votes than anyone else in 1976 (I think) but of course didn't have the delegates.

West lost his House seat. You can say he was gerrymandered, but whatever. You have to overcome that. It's the same problem, in part, that Rick Santorum had: it's hard to convince people that you can win the presidency when you can't even carry a state.

152 posted on 12/26/2014 2:54:08 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Nextrush

I don’t disagree about Ted Cruz. But to keep him on his toes he needs a capable opponent that comes from the conservative point of view in primaries. I think that opponent should be Col. West. To me he is the only alternative to Cruz. I still don’t understand why he is not talked about. Although it might be a good thing for him to stay below the radar.


153 posted on 12/26/2014 2:55:07 PM PST by certrtwngnut (The middle east is where the enemy of my enemy is my enemy!)
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To: SleeperCatcher
Already bolted when Mitt got the nod. The party over principle GOPe enablers blame me for Obama even tho I warned them years in advance.

History is repeating itself.

No Jeb, no way.

Go ahead and blame me now for President Hillary.

My vote must be earned. It is not automatic because of an R next to someones name.

I only vote for conservatives.

I'll write in Ted Cruz.

154 posted on 12/26/2014 3:03:57 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: x
Certainly most of the time the two parties' candidates are closer to each other in views than most passionate Republicans and Democrats or conservatives and liberals are

It wasn't true in 2008, and I think it hasn't been true since the New Left overreacted the old Democrat bosses and started putting up progressively more liberal (and in Slick's case, deceptively so -- remember that "DLC" shtick) and in Obama's case, actually Communist, while the brains of the GOP-E continue to attempt "The Price Is Right" strategies that exclude the party's base.

The GOP-E is conducting a pogrom of the Congressional party; that is proof of my (borrowed) thesis articulated here by others, that the GOP is fecklessly following the captive Democrat Party to the left. They are now actually behaving like case-hardened Leftists.

155 posted on 12/26/2014 3:05:15 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: SleeperCatcher
BREAKING NEWS! Bernie Sanders will let us know whether he is running for President by March...

Quit laughing...it was just on the news here in Red Hampshire...

156 posted on 12/26/2014 3:07:44 PM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Erratum to my last: “Overreached” not “overreacted” (inserted by AutoSpell**cker).


157 posted on 12/26/2014 3:10:42 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Agree. Let’s lose, and clean our house before making a comeback.


158 posted on 12/26/2014 3:21:46 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: OneWingedShark

Totally agree. I will NEVER support one of these creeps again.


159 posted on 12/26/2014 3:24:37 PM PST by ZULU (Quo usque tandem abutere Obama patientia nostra?)
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To: certrtwngnut

He is being ignored because of the GOPe. We need to dismantle the GOPe before we have any chance of a true conservative takeover.


160 posted on 12/26/2014 3:26:20 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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