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If Judge Hanen rules against DACA, this will be a fatal blow to Obama’s current DACA expansion to the 5 million illegal aliens that he is preparing to make amnesty for. Border Patrol agents and Sheriffs say it’s not 5 million, it’s 20 million. This number is backed up by a solicitation work order for manufacturing up to 34 Million ID Cards for these illegals.

Would the Judge's ruling have weight or would Obama just ignore it, until it got to the Supremes?

Obama really is aiding and abetting an invasion of the USA and those in the know understand clearly why he is doing it.

Cloward-Pivan? I think it is something more sinister than just getting more votes.

This is a very serious issue and is why I devote a lot of time to it.

Which issue - violating the separation of powers or the intentional invasion? Either way, thank you for doing so. If you have a ping list or just a group you ping from time to time, please add me.

Being in the center of the invasion, I've been interested in the topic for decades. I've lived in Texas and California and have watched both states deteriorate to the point of being unrecognizable. You can't go anywhere in either state except perhaps northern CA and not hear Spanish spoken. I've been saying for decades that the invasion will destroy this country, back when W was pushing amnesty and his RINOs were saying it was 'just one issue'. Yeah, right -one that affects just about every other issue.
27 posted on 12/24/2014 8:10:03 PM PST by Hardens Hollow (I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created my own Harden's Hollow. Join me!)
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To: Hardens Hollow

> “Would the Judge’s ruling have weight or would Obama just ignore it, until it got to the Supremes?”

A preliminary injunction is a temporary court order like a temporary restraining order and is left in place until removed. What it does is keep things stable and preserve the status quo until both sides prepare their longer legal filings. That can take up to a year to hear so it buys time.

Obama can ignore it but it won’t matter if he does, why? Because a Federal Court Order applies to all of government as well as government contractors.

We are not going to get a federal court order to deport millions of people. The Courts CANNOT order Obama to do anything. The Courts CAN order the people that carry out his directives and the federal contractors who receive his work orders TO STOP. Can’t order them to DO; can order them to STOP.

The goal now is to stop Amnesty by stopping the ID Cards from being manufactured. The manufacturer is General Dynamics. They are the Federal Contractor. Here’s the flow:

Stop General Dynamics by serving or notifying them
-> Stop Alien ID Card Manufacturing which in turn for illegals will:
-—> Stop SSNs
-—> Stop Work Permits
-—> Stop Federal Benefits such as EBT and Obamacare
-—> Stop Adjustments to Residency Status
-—> Stop Drivers Licenses and State IDs
-—> Stop Motor-Voter Registrations

If General Dynamics is stopped by Federal Court Order, then all the rest are stopped which means the process of Amnesty and legalization is stopped.

It doesn’t solve the problem of deportation. That has to be done by a President willing to act on it. Need to wait for that.

But it will stop EXECUTIVE Amnesty.

But then there is LEGISLATIVE Amnesty to stop and that must be done by the new Conservatives sent to Congress. I think that is going to be an even bigger fight.

All amnesty actions and so-called immigration reform must be put on the back-burner if not turned off completely. Immigration reform needs to happen only when Conservatives control Congress and the White House; NOTHING until then, not one word of legislation until then.

Immigration reform is needed because of what Ted Kennedy did in 1965. That needs to be UNDONE in a big way but only when Conservatives have the upper hand.

> “Which issue - violating the separation of powers or the intentional invasion?”

Both and God bless your witness in Texas and California.


28 posted on 12/24/2014 11:06:33 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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