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To: Hacksaw
>"Would you rather have Trayvon Martin and the Gentle Giant as your next door neighbors or 2 random cops? Ponder on that."Honestly I wouldn't want neither either any or of them as neighbors.

Now if it was 2 cops I know, it would be a different story. I know quite a few righteous men of God that wear a badge, and indeed are my neighbors.

I do NOT HATE our LEOs.


Eric Garner did not deserve to be mauled to death over cigarette taxes.

St Skiddles and Unarmed got everything they paid for. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Lethal force is often an unfortunate occurrence in LE duty. It is often justified!

Nazi death squads with grenades in the middle of the night are NOT! There are many ways to take perps without military maneuvers aka POLICE STATE mentality.

They did this at Waco, where they could have taken Koresh while jogging or in town shopping. Instead the POLICE STATE murdered almost 80 US men women and children citizens, many of them by burning them alive!

Just how much POLICE STATE BRUTALITY does it take before you realize it's not a good thing?

831 posted on 12/21/2014 11:35:47 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Eric Garner did not deserve to be mauled to death over cigarette taxes.

I am as against excessive force as much as anyone. In fact, one of the reasons that I am such a supporter of the 2nd amendment is that I do not grant the government the right to render me defenseless against the government. And I am as against cigarette taxes as much as anyone. In fact, one of the reasons that I am against sin taxes (or regulations that impede the exercise of individual choices, in general), is because they invariably lead to an over-militarization of police, and the criminalization of pursuits that most people would consider in some way justified.

However, this guy was not "mauled". Nor was he not mauled over cigarette taxes. This is pure hyperbole, and aggrandizement. He died because he resisted arrest, and, as a morbidly obese asthmatic, resisting arrest is not the wise decision. If you can't win your argument without resorting to verbs like "maul", or to causes like "over cigarette taxes", you have lost your argument.

You also refer to "police state brutality". I suspect that you have no idea at all what that means. And I also suspect that you have no idea at all what the fringes of society are like, when it is your job to shield ordinary people from this fringe entering into their daily existence. Police brutality (let alone police "state" brutality)? Please. A morbidly obese man makes a darwinian choice to resist arrest, resulting in a mildly violent takedown. Heart attack, and, for the compassion-challenged among us, hilarity, ensues. Nothing more.
832 posted on 12/21/2014 11:54:48 PM PST by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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