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To: lepton

If you’ve got some actual statistics for those numbers, I’d like to see them.

My personal suspicion is that around 20% of rape accusations are factually false, no actual rape occurred. Based on the assumption that if 10% can be proven false, it’s likely another 10% are false but it can’t be proven.

Some additional percentage are questionable, with possibility of rape being based entirely on state of mind at the time. Something utterly unknowable to anybody else, and somewhat difficult to determine even for the “victim.”

There is a well-known case where a “good girl” fresh meat college student was gang-raped five strangers in a public bathroom. Denunciations, mea culpas and prosecutions were ramping up when it turned out one of the students had videotaped the “attack.” Viewing the footage it was obvious the “victim” was a willing and indeed enthusiastic participant.

As Emily Litella used to say, “Never mind!”

But without that footage, the young men involved would have been convicted and imprisoned and the case would still be celebrated as an example of rape culture. Somewhat muted by the fact that I think all participants were AA.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2009/09/smeary_lines.html


51 posted on 12/19/2014 11:54:46 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

It’s more of a cumulative thing. Studies which have even remotely reasonable definitions of rape, while differentiating rape from ogling, tend to go that way.

Tangential posts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3238798/posts

Rape and Sexual Assault Victimization Among College-Age Females, 1995–2013
US Dept Justice ^ | December 2014 | Sofi Sinozich & Lynn Langton
Posted on December 18, 2014 11:56:07 PM EST by fkabuckeyesrule

For the period 1995–2013, females ages 18 to 24 had the highest rate of rape and sexual assault victimizations compared to females in all other age groups. Within the 18 to 24 age group, victims could be identified as students enrolled in a college, university, trade school or vocational school or as nonstudents. Among student victims, 20% of rape and sexual assault victimizations were reported to police, compared to 32% reported among nonstudent victims ages 18 to 24.

Post 14 is also notable.

The main post refers to the following Coulter article, which has some similar numbers to what I stated:
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-12-17.html

The U.S. Air Force, for example, examined more than a thousand rape allegations on military bases over the course of four years and concluded that 46 percent were false. In 27 percent of the cases, the accuser recanted. A large study of rape allegations over nine years in a small Midwestern city, by Eugene J. Kanin of Purdue University, found that 41 percent of the rape claims were false.

To put it in terms Kirsten Gillibrand would understand, two in five women claiming to have been raped are lying.

So why are we always being hectored: Only 2 percent of rape allegations are false!

That oft-cited number comes from Susan Brownmiller’s 1975 book, “Against Our Will” — which sourced the claim to a mimeograph of a speech by a state court judge, who made a passing remark about a New York police precinct with an all-female rape squad. Nothing more is known about whether this was an actual study, and if so, what was examined, how the information was collected or the actual results. Nor can any trace of the speech, the precinct or the data be found.


Not directly responsive to your request, but perhaps of interest.


57 posted on 12/19/2014 12:10:08 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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