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1 posted on 12/18/2014 5:17:28 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

What is the rule now if a male soldier is assaulted by a homosexual?


2 posted on 12/18/2014 5:20:11 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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As with most sexual assaults, there was no physical evidence to buttress the case against Wilkerson.

Huh?

5 posted on 12/18/2014 5:36:02 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

When I was in the military if someone said they were raped, the men said she was gay, what kind of logic?


6 posted on 12/18/2014 5:39:35 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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From the article:

“his great-great-grandfather survived the Battle of the Little Bighorn.”

I guess he is part Indian huh?


7 posted on 12/18/2014 5:43:09 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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Christensen’s early experience in a military courtroom was primarily as a defense attorney, with most of his early cases involving drug possession or use. During that time, he also represented nine men accused of rape. He won acquittals for six of them — the other three cases were thrown out before trial. Christensen developed an expertise in unraveling a victim’s testimony by, among other things, questioning her demeanor before and after the assault. He kept to himself how distasteful he found these moments — how he imagined taking the women aside after the whole thing was over and whispering, I believe you.

So now the NYT is mind-reading?

8 posted on 12/18/2014 5:43:54 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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Of course the administration has let the cat out of the bag with homosexuality now rampant in the military.


10 posted on 12/18/2014 5:56:42 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Most military sexual assaults are man on man. How inconvenient for the sodomite leadership.


17 posted on 12/18/2014 6:35:23 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Great article. Kudos to Senator Gillabrand for her efforts.


23 posted on 12/18/2014 7:06:24 AM PST by moovova
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; Old Sarge; ScottinVA; 2banana; yldstrk; rfreedom4u; sauropod; Louis Foxwell; ...
I read the entire long article and had many reactions to it. One case was described in which a female pilot with more hours than everyone else and an exemplary record was digitally penetrated after a night of drinking with her unit buddies; she reported it and the case was pursued and won, but she was then ostracized and downgraded.

My first reaction was that life continues to be unfair and women simply should never allow themselves to get drunk and fall on someone's couch after a night of drinking; and that the accused was also drunk and acting with diminished responsibility.

My second thought was that my thinking is old-fashioned; and that if the two buddies out drinking had both been males and one had tried to digitally penetrate the other after a night of drinking, it would properly be viewed as a sexual assault. (This is one of the cases questioned above in which there was no DNA evidence because there was no ejacultion.)

Thirdly, good order demands that everyone in the service have equal justice; and if a woman was subjected to an unwanted sexual penetration, it is a crime against the person and should be reported and prosecuted. Any person, male or female, who is raped or sexually assaulted and the accused is found guilty, should have access to justice and should be reinstated without the negative "whistleblower" treatment.

However, as the parent of a son, I again question the entire premise that men and women should serve together in the military in extremely high-stress occupations involving extreme risk-taking personalities and where lives are on the line. In high-stress occupations such as this case, fighter pilots, a certain percentage of sexual misconduct is inevitable, and dealing with it is a huge waste of taxpayer investment.

On the other hand, various civilian occupations such as ER medicine or surgery, publishing (deadlines, deadlines!), show business, police work, etc often involve the same kind of stress, with similarly high risk-taking personalities involved; and the stories of sexual involvement in those fields are also frequent.

So I have come back around to the practical precaution women should take of not getting drunk with workmates. Life really isn't fair; and few of us would want males to be so completely gelded that a night of drinking would never, ever, ever lead to sexual fumbling around. I does not seem fair to me that sexual groping when both parties are drunk should end a guy's career. Serial offenders, coercive offenders, violent rapists — sure, get rid of them. But make the effort to weed them out before they become senior officers or the recipients of highly expensive training and experience.

24 posted on 12/18/2014 7:28:47 AM PST by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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I read most of it. The woman named Kris went out drinking with her fly boy buddies until she passed out. The man who allegedly assaulted her was also dead drunk. He says he doesn’t remember anything and he’s probably right. I guess I see the behavior of the woman as a mitigating factor. Am I wrong?


29 posted on 12/18/2014 10:47:35 AM PST by Mercat ("The sisters did not want to save the world. Someone already had.")
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