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Establishment revenge? Jeb Bush, Romney lead GOP field for ’16
McClatchy DC ^ | 12/16/2014 | BY DAVID LIGHTMAN

Posted on 12/16/2014 10:22:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 12/16/2014 10:23:55 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; jebbush; mittromney; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneymarriage; uniparty
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To: SeekAndFind

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

Ted Cruz, Scot Walker,Sessions, Palin = YESS for president


21 posted on 12/16/2014 10:43:04 AM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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To: Finny

I vote 3rd party and down the ticket. No more voting for the liberal trash the GOPE keeps trotting out, I’m done with that. And if it means a democrat wins so be it. I despise them, but the liberal trash the GOPE puts out is the same animal with an (R) in front of it’s name.


22 posted on 12/16/2014 10:46:40 AM PST by sarge83
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To: SeekAndFind

The more GPOe’s the better. Let em all split the GOPe vote and let a good conservative like Cruz in.


23 posted on 12/16/2014 10:50:20 AM PST by expat2
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To: SeekAndFind
It'd be nice if conservative primary candidates could refrain from splitting the vote - or failing that, if conservative voters could rally around a single candidate:

"They’d be followed by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey and former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, each with 9 percent, and physician Ben Carson with 8 percent. The rest of the potential field trails behind in smaller single digits. [..] It includes Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, 7 percent; Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, 6 percent; Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. Rick Perry, both of Texas and each with 5 percent; Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, Gov. John Kasich of Ohio and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, each with 3 percent; Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and businesswoman Carly Fiorina, each with 1 percent."

24 posted on 12/16/2014 10:51:18 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Cruz Doesn’t Believe Governors Have Edge Over Senators in Presidential Races ".........“It’s an advantage only if you think that the American people are looking for someone who is not standing up and leading on the great challenges of the day,” Cruz said Monday in an appearance on the “Mark Levin Show.”

Cruz’s comments come as several Republican governors and former governors are considering running for president.

That includes Jeb Bush of Florida, Chris Christie of New Jersey, Scott Walker of Wisconsin, and John R. Kasich of Ohio. Cruz’s colleagues who may run include Sens. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Rand Paul, R-Ky.

“We do see a fair number of governors who are taking a pass on the great challenges facing us right now,” Cruz said. “And here’s what I hope. By any measure there are a lot of folks … that are thinking of running for president in ’16, both governors and senators. What I’ve urged every one of them is … the number one way to demonstrate that you should be the nominee is to stand up and lead … stand up for free market principles, stand up for the Constitution, stand up for American leadership in the world.”

Cruz believes someone with a conservative message will win the nomination and general election.

“If you look at Republican nominees that have gone on to win the presidency they have done so consistently by running as strong conservatives with a positive optimistic hopeful messages,” Cruz said, urging candidates to stay away from what he dubs the “mushy middle.”...............

[NOTE] Correction, 11:50 p.m.

"An earlier version of this post misquoted Cruz in what seemed to be a reference to the Bush family."

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I wonder how Roll Call worded it to twist Cruz's comment - probably to make him look "mean-spirited." It looks like one of Cruz's people spotted it and made them fix it.

25 posted on 12/16/2014 10:55:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SeekAndFind
Much of FR from 2009-2012 = I hate RINOs. I only vote for conservatives. I refuse to vote for liberals. I'm done with the GOP. We need a 3rd party. Blah, blah, blah.

Much of FR close to Election Day 2012 = If you vote for anyone but the Republican candidate you are a traitor. It will be all your fault if Obama wins. Please, please, please vote for Romney.

Much of FR from 2013-present = I hate RINOs. I only vote for true conservatives. I refuse to vote for liberals. I'm done with the GOP. We need a 3rd party. Blah, blah, blah.

Much of FR close to Election Day 2016 = If you vote for anyone but the Republican candidate you are a traitor. It will be all your fault if (insert Dem candidate here) wins. Please, please, please vote for (Romney or Bush or Christie or...)

26 posted on 12/16/2014 10:58:58 AM PST by gdani (Ebola has exposed the U.S. as fearful, easy-to-manipulate weaklings)
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To: Finny

Conservatives would rather have eight years of Hillary and/or Warren than vote for a right of center GOP candidate who isn’t ultra conservative. If you love Obama, might as well prepare for eight more years of the same garbage.


27 posted on 12/16/2014 11:01:16 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: sourcery

The GOPe knows how to fix that: Campaign on a minimum wage of $15.01


28 posted on 12/16/2014 11:01:17 AM PST by sourcery (Without the right to self defense, there can be no rights at all.)
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To: gdani

EXACTLY...They cave EVERY election cycle.


29 posted on 12/16/2014 11:03:48 AM PST by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: sourcery

Both potential candidates are favored by the liberal media and will be pushed hard. I do NOT anticipate seeing a real conservative on the horizon in this or many elections to come, amnesty has taken care of that.


30 posted on 12/16/2014 11:04:05 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: sarge83; EternalVigilance; All; Old Sarge; bert; so_real; Norm Lenhart
Amen, sarge83. I'm on the same page as you, after more than years of loyally, doggedly voting straight Republican ticket, including voting "against" such leftists as Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown, Gray Davis, and Cruz Bustamonte (I'm in California) by voting FOR such leftists as Schwarzenegger and Meg Whitman. In 2012, I realized that there is no such thing as voting "against" -- the only thing that counts is what you vote FOR.

In 2012, I cast my vote for a limited government third-party Christian conservative Tom Hoefling, aka Eternal Vigilance, knowing he would lose, but knowing as well that I was voting FOR denying a popular mandate to whichever leftist was going to be our next president, Obama or Romney.

Praise God, enough Americans recognized that it is better to fight amoral tyranny they rejected than to fight amoral tyranny they invited via a "deal with devil" such as a vote "against" Obama at the price of voting FOR pro-abortion, pro-homosexual "rights," pro-environmentalist agenda, pro-government-run health care, pro-activist-judges Romney.

By definition, a deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. It only took me three decades to figure it out!! {^)

31 posted on 12/16/2014 11:05:00 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: SeekAndFind

These preliminary or premature presidential primary polls (PPPPs as I call them) are as irrelevant as they are utterly useless.

Obviously a person with a name like Clinton or Bush or Romney is going to have a big lead over lesser known candidates in a PPPP due mostly to name ID which is of course at least half the battle in politics.

This does not guarantee victory. It was thought that HRC was inevitable for the Dem nomination in 2008. That did not happen.

It is also the main reason why the first presidential primaries are held in small states like IA, NH, and SC where less known candidates have a better chance of getting themselves known to the voters.


32 posted on 12/16/2014 11:05:37 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: CatOwner; sarge83; JRandomFreeper; All
Conservatives would rather have eight years of Hillary and/or Warren than vote for a right of center GOP candidate who isn’t ultra conservative. If you love Obama, might as well prepare for eight more years of the same garbage.

Yes, I would rather fight amoral leftist pro-abortion pro-homosexual "rights" pro-government-run health care pro environmentalist tyranny that I REJECTED than the same that I invited.

YOU, on the other hand, would rather have tyranny you voted FOR than tyranny you refused to sanction.

You INVITE "eight more years of the same garbage" no matter who wins.

I and many, many other American conservatives refuse to play that losers game anymore.

We have woken up. YOU are still slumbering.

33 posted on 12/16/2014 11:11:05 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: gdani
Out of curiosity, which one were you, gdani? Did you vote for Romney in 2012, or did you vote (or not vote) such as to tell both leftists, Obama and Romney, to go to hell?

For the first time in my life in 2012, after more than 30 years of voting straight Republican ticket, I voted third party in the Presidential race. Voting for tyranny as the price of voting "against" tyranny is a losers' game.

34 posted on 12/16/2014 11:17:04 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

I’m in California. It’s a double lost cause here. Between the overrun of illegals in the state and hard left political shift, and the fact that by the time the primaries get to us the selections have pretty much been done by the rest of the country, I have no say.


35 posted on 12/16/2014 11:19:08 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, I find only 4% in this poll voting for someone that Free Republic has determined not to be a RINO or GOPe. Looks like we have an uphill fight.


36 posted on 12/16/2014 11:28:56 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: CatOwner
If you love Obama, might as well prepare for eight more years of the same garbage.

Even if you HATE Obama, you might as well prepare for eight more years of the same garbage no matter if the Democrat or the Republican wins, if the Republican nominee is Romney or Jeb or some other Uniparty big government amoral statist.

Accusing those who refuse to vote for Republicans who are functional Democrats as "loving Obama" is just stupid.

37 posted on 12/16/2014 11:30:29 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: SeekAndFind

That is name recognition, nothing more. “Burning Bush” would get establishment support from a whole lot of RINOs, unless they were alert enough to notice the first name (which is anathema to insiders of both parties).


38 posted on 12/16/2014 11:30:37 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: CatOwner

Exactly.

I live in CA too.

We have one of the last primaries in the country, in June.

By the time we get to vote it is over.


39 posted on 12/16/2014 11:30:52 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

If they ran Dole or Reagan, they’d also get lots of hits. Folks are just responding to name recognition.


40 posted on 12/16/2014 11:38:57 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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