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To: LS
Super impressive that you wrote some books but I don't think you'll mind that I find the actual record more impressive. Most of the German units were quite experienced but we were fast learners. The initial setbacks in North Africa and in the sector of the Bulge were quickly overcome once we gained some experience and we were fast learners. All you have to see is the record of how quickly we broke out of the Normandy beachhead, sealed most of the Falaise pocket and then drove East to see how good we really got. If it hadn't been for the diversion of support to go to Market Garden, we likely would have beaten the Soviets to Berlin.

You would have been better served reading the actual unit diaries/after-action reports of the units in the theater than "sourcing from scholars". We tend to brutally honest in our reports, so the truth is available to you.

Bottom line, we crushed them - and you would do well to make the acquaintance of a few of our diminishing supply of European theater combat vets. They were awe-inspiring. Look up "Hurtgen Forest" and "Aachen" to gain an appreciation for how damn tough our infantry really was - or just visit one of the many cemeteries in France, Belgium and Germany to seem how many we lost versus how many of them are buried there.

Writers that find some new "truth" about how lousy we were against the Nazis are a dime a dozen lately. You are wrong.

78 posted on 12/16/2014 3:40:27 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
Ah, the scholars I rely upon are military guys, who have digested the diaries for me. But I read a few diaries, although those are always a little too unreliable.

I happen to agree about the diversion of support on Market Garden, but on the other hand you could argue that had Patton, not Horrocks, been in charge of the tank units, that would have been successful as well.

And the stories of vets, while inspiring, aren't always accurate. However, "Men Against Fire," which was written by a WW II combat historian, was based extensively on those who were serving at the time, mainly so that the Army could address training problems after the war. I don't think you could call him a "Germanophile" either. I'm not wrong. Wish I was in this case.

79 posted on 12/16/2014 4:11:29 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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