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To: yldstrk
Was waterboarded when I was 19. I still go swimming and take showers and baths. Shortly after that I saw a non US person rip the fingers off of a suspect with a pair of pliers and gain actionable intel that saved US lives. I'll take waterboarding for $500, Alex(over having my fingers ripped off, drills into the kneecap, flesh being cut off or burns any day). So, is Dick Cheney a lair?
32 posted on 12/14/2014 7:16:24 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

As I indicated previously, I like Dick Cheney, a lot. Saw him speak at a Republican lunch. But I don’t agree with him on this. In the realm of relativity, yeah, sure, you would “take” waterboarding over having your fingers ripped off with pliers, knees drilled, chunks of flesh cut off or being burned, but the line is drawn before you inflict physical touch to get information.

I used to teach Geneva-Hague conventions to huge groups of soldiers as part of a legal requirement—the reality being that if soldiers are aware of their rights they will be more able to assert them. While Geneva-Hague doesn’t protect non-combatants, it sets a baseline Americans operate from.

If they are non-combatants and not entitled to protections, I am less concerned about them and more concerned about the effect torture has on the torturer and what it indicates about Americans.


36 posted on 12/14/2014 7:48:07 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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