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To: goldstategop; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
The revival of the Orthodox faith is gradually reversing the damage but you cannot fix what was laid waste in only a generation.

And why should be assume the State church is not or will not become an arm of the KBG, in addition to preaching much the same dead gospel and errors of Rome ?

14 posted on 12/11/2014 7:56:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
We cannot doubt that the Russian Orthodox Church is an arm of the government. It's infiltration and control by the KGB is quite well known, and its corruption is just as extreme as any other sector of the "post"-Communist society of Russia. For example:

"Kirill, who was the Metropolitan of Smolensk, succeeds Alexei II who died in December after 18 years as head of the Russian Church. According to material from the Soviet archives, Kirill was a KGB agent (as was Alexei). This means he was more than just an informer, of whom there were millions in the Soviet Union. He was an active officer of the organization. Neither Kirill nor Alexei ever acknowledged or apologized for their ties with the security agencies.

As head of the church’s department of foreign church relations, Kirill gained the reputation of a relatively enlightened church leader. He met with Pope Benedict, and he has been attacked by church conservatives for “ecumenism.”

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After the fall of the Soviet Union, the church received official privileges including the right to import duty-free alcohol and tobacco. In 1995, the Nikolo-Ugreshky Monastery, which is directly subordinated to the patriarchate, earned $350 million from the sale of alcohol. The patriarchate’s department of foreign church relations, which Kirill ran, earned $75 million from the sale of tobacco. But the patriarchate reported an annual budget in 1995-1996 of only $2 million. Kirill’s personal wealth was estimated by the Moscow News in 2006 to be $4 billion.

During this period, the church has been silent about genuine moral issues, such as Russia’s pervasive corruption and the indiscriminate killing of noncombatants in Chechnya. As Kirill begins his reign as patriarch, there is little reason to expect this to change."

http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/20/putin-solzhenitsyn-kirill-russia-opinions-contributors_orthodox_church.html

This is just the tip of the iceberg revealing the true face of this "church." See my other post that has a link on the targeting of Protestant pastors in East Ukraine by Russia's "Orthodox" thugs.

20 posted on 12/11/2014 8:22:52 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: daniel1212

The reality is that all the churches have weak and prone to failure human beings as members and that even includes the Bible-based churches, like it or not.


24 posted on 12/12/2014 3:27:46 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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