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Don’t Bet against Bill Cosby: Six reasons the beloved comic could rise again.
National Review ^ | 12/09/2014 | Tim Cavanaugh

Posted on 12/09/2014 6:58:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: RginTN
After Tawanna Brawley I am a skeptic instead of an instant believer of a woman’s rape claim.

Bill Cosby was a promoter of the Tawana Brawley rape hoax, and even put up a personal reward and wrote a racist article on it.

"Pay-up time for Brawley: ’87 rape-hoaxer finally shells out for slander"

61 posted on 12/10/2014 10:07:45 AM PST by ansel12
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To: josettedupree

Actually i function in society fairly well. I believe people until I am given cause not to believe what I am told.

I mistrust MSM and their bias.

I mistrust lawyers that go on news programs proclaiming someone is innocent or guilty before that person has had their day in court.

I do not know any of the women personally, i do not know Bill Cosby.

If he is adjudged guilty - you may say i told you so.

until that time perhaps we should let the just us system work its magic.


62 posted on 12/10/2014 8:44:53 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: SteveH
Cosby has one settlement out of court with prejudice and 27 witnesses. In the real world I consider that to be close to a tsunami of indicators in a certain direction.

LOL, does your "real world" contain political slander plots against world famous multi-millionaire media personalities who exhort an entire race of people to get off of the government plantation? Are those the kind of dynamics you had to deal with when you were falsely accused, or are they above your pay grade?

63 posted on 12/10/2014 10:50:47 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: josettedupree
If you ask someone a question and that person answers it, how do you believe the answer? If you ask your spouse where he/she was the past hour and he/she answers you, how do you believe him/her? Under your rationale you are not allowed to believe someone unless that person is under oath in a court of law. I’m just wondering how you function in society with your rules. And why do you bother having relationships with people when you don’t believe anything people tell you and the people you tell things to don’t believe anything you tell them? Just curious.

On that's easy. What I do is get together with my friends and see how many people agree that someone is just rotten, and trust that everyone in my group had no agenda, and that my group itself has no agenda, and the women crying rape decades after they said something happened that they have no evidence of but want a lot of money for has no agenda, and that the political issues around this person don't exist, and the political powers against this person have no agenda, and the media has no agenda, you know, to go along with the complete and utter lack of any evidence.

And then, in the great collective tradition of this kind of mob rule, we string the victim up and lynch him. In the good old days we got a rope and tree. Now we use oceans of slander. But hey, what does it matter? Once the group FEELS someone should be destroyed, a halo of purity descends from the clouds upon its members, and then whatever they do is right.

Because as you've pointed out, there simply isn't any other way, and it's better to destroy some innocents than have a system outside of mob hated that might let someone outside of the accepted group narrative get away.

64 posted on 12/10/2014 11:03:53 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: caddie
1.) He has the identical MO each time, ensnaring naïve protégées to his hotel with promises of work.
2.) The protégées all tell the same story.
3.) They even look alike, a sign of his taste in victims.
4.) Etc., etc.

1) & 2) say the same thing, only what stays the same is the slanderous story, in order to reinforce the power of the story for character assassination purposes. Because that's all this is - it will never be heard in court because of no evidence.
3) He is not contesting meeting with them, so why should he not show a preference in women who are asking him if they could come up and spend private time with him?
4) There's no etc., let alone two of them.

65 posted on 12/10/2014 11:20:32 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: vette6387
So now you think that rape is a “nuisance!” These women may have lost the ability to sue him in criminal court, but you can bet they will be there in force in civil court. Just hope they do it in Nevada so Cosby can share a cell with OJ Simpson out at the Nevada State Penitentiary in the middle of nowhere east of Lovelock. I can tell you that “the view” out there is really boring. All there is to see if you are on the north side, is the cars going by a mile distant on I88. A fitting “end” for Cosby.

LOL, look up nuisance suit, fool - your accusation wouldn't even work on a playground. And how exactly would a civil case put Cosby in a penitentiary? If, that is, he could possibly lose, given that the whole world screaming for his head has not one tiny shred of actual evidence and his entire life is an example of the highest character?

Or did you just want to give a shoutout to your buds still in Lovelock? After all, besides pulling it out of thin air, you seem pretty knowledgeable about the place.

66 posted on 12/10/2014 11:29:30 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

I think you need to look in the mirror when you use the word fool! I get it that you don’t think that there’s any way Cosby is guilty of anything, so you must be Black or a closet Progressive. As far as the Nevada Pen is concerned, I drove by in not long ago on my way to bury a relative.


67 posted on 12/10/2014 11:46:21 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Talisker

LOL, (redacted personal info— who i am or am not IMHO should not be important as to the truth, fallacy or anything in between in this matter). But yeah, PC (redacted) acknowledges no pay grade boundaries that I am aware of. Funny it was, funny it is, and funny you are, har har. Perhaps you are correct in that I am ‘not worthy,’ if that is your point. Not that that has anything to do with real justice. LOL.

Extraordinary claims (when made) require extraordinary evidence (Sagan). Some folks here seem to be advancing the hypothesis of a 14 year, 27 (and counting) witness political conspiracy by liberals against liberals. No trial... thereforemust be regarded as innocent, right!?!

So indulge me, please. Let’s say, your hypothetical one and only 17yo virgin daughter attending Temple U calls you up on her cell from a hypothetical nearby cafe. Hypothetically, BC just walked in the cafe’s front door, said hi to her, sat at her table, and asks her if he can buy her a latte. BC is telling her (she says to you over her phone) that he can help her with her career, and she is very excited and flattered. However, her cell phone battery is low, and you have 10 seconds maximum to give her your any hypothetical advice before you lose contact with her for several hours or more. This is all happening in real time— right now. You have no more information than you do at this moment. What advice do you give to her in the 10 seconds before her cell phone battery dies? It’s OK (and the 27 witnesses and probably their families are part of an extended and elaborate long term, ingenious political conspiracy)? Go ahead and accept the latte and the help from BC??


68 posted on 12/11/2014 12:03:55 AM PST by SteveH
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To: goat granny

If you weren’t mentioning money when you said “he wouldn’t pay the blackmail”, what were you referring to? What did he refuse to pay?


69 posted on 12/11/2014 1:02:12 AM PST by josettedupree
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To: Talisker

You’re making false statements. Not all of these women are asking for money or anything from Bill Cosby. Many of them have said so. They simply wanted to tell their story of what happened to them. So far, there isn’t any proof or evidence that they have an agenda.

Actually, I hope some of them change their minds and sue Cosby. I would love to see what Cosby has to say under oath about all of this.


70 posted on 12/11/2014 1:02:12 AM PST by josettedupree
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To: Nailbiter

You say you believe people until you have cause not to believe them. What exactly do you not believe? Especially the ones that have come forward and are not asking for anything from Cosby.


71 posted on 12/11/2014 1:02:12 AM PST by josettedupree
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To: Talisker

>> Just innocent until proven guilty

Exactly.

Certainly the allegations are alarming, but worse is the emotional trial that already has Cosby hanged without due process.


72 posted on 12/11/2014 1:45:27 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: josettedupree

You can’t base fact on the apparent absence of motivation.

FWIW, I’m only defending the Constitution.

Welcome to FR!


73 posted on 12/11/2014 1:53:46 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: josettedupree

Lets do this - you believe what ever you want, i will believe what I want to believe.

I was not looking for argument- just pointing out that there has not been any charges filed, he gets indicted and convicted send me, “I told you so.”


74 posted on 12/11/2014 1:57:44 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: josettedupree
I have been waiting for you to mention blackmail, your a couple of days late..Blackmail is a crime and without evidence from the lady that a rape was committed, that was possibly the only way she could extort some money from him. Give me money or I'll tell everyone. I don't know what happened or when or if ever, but without evidence he is innocence until proven guilty....I am surprised at how many "conservatives" lay blame without evidence. The Duke students would be in prison without a lawyer. Everyone seem to call them guilty without a trial..the media wouldn't even tell the truth about the womans history. Other women have yelled rape and were proven to be liars...Then we have Tawana Brawley/Al Sharpten circus in N>Y> The prosecutor took her to civil court and he won a judgement against the liar.....

But we all know women don't lie about such things...at least thats what the femi-nazi use to say....only fools believed them.

75 posted on 12/11/2014 3:05:55 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Talisker

; )


76 posted on 12/11/2014 3:21:22 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: Talisker

; )


77 posted on 12/11/2014 3:26:11 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: Nailbiter

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78 posted on 12/11/2014 3:27:14 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: goat granny

Oh, I get it. So you WERE referring to money when you said you weren’t referring to money. You still haven’t answered my question regarding why they chose Bill Cosby when there are so many men out there with billions of dollars more than him. And also please tell me what the motive is of all of the women that have NOT asked Cosby for a dime. And I also think it’s hilarious you’re accusing these women of blackmail, a crime. You should take your own advice and wait until you see some evidence of it before you accuse them.


79 posted on 12/11/2014 6:25:26 AM PST by josettedupree
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To: Nailbiter

Not to beat a dead horse, but you still haven’t answered my question. What exactly do you not believe about the women’s stories, especially the ones who aren’t asking for dime from Cosby?


80 posted on 12/11/2014 6:25:26 AM PST by josettedupree
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