Issa asks Gruber is he is “stupid”. Gruber apologizes again (and again, and again...).
Issa asks Gruber if it’s true that if Goldman got a lower premium, some people would necessarily have to have higher premiums.
Gruber is obfuscating, talking about risk pools, blah, blah.
Issa - Should we question the numbers you delivered based on the fact that you said that people weren’t told the truth?
Gruber attempting to distance his off the cuff comments from the actual numbers he ran.
Issa calls for independent audit of Gruber’s numbers.
Cummings again excoriating Gruber for the main reason that Gruber gave ACA critics a great PR weapon, but should not reflect on how wonderful the ACA is.