[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Whom do you trust? This came out in August but apparently hasn't received much attention, except maybe at the GJ.

Whose testimony or opinion to trust? Think. If he said thirteen times he can't breath, that means his air passage was open. It's not a choke.

[gorush]

My take as well.

[moehoward]

"f he said thirteen times he can't breath, that means his air passage was open. It's not a choke. "

That does not mean he hadn't been choked. It just indicates the cop had stopped choking him. Evidence from the med examiner in consistent with choking. "10 hemorrhages on the inside of the neck, in the muscles of the neck, petechial hemorrhages in the eye, hemorrhage in the tongue. And those are all evidence of neck compression"

[ForYourChildren]

He had asthma and was obese. My opinion is his stating that he couldn’t breathe would be due to the airway constriction from the asthma and obesity, and as you say not from a “chokehold.” The medical complications immediately following would have caused his death.

So I am certain that he couldn’t breathe and was telling the truth. But again, his not being able to breathe was due to medical reasons from asthma and obesity and not a chokehold.

[mcshot]

Saying you can’t breath is the equivalent of a “tap out”. Having to say it 13 times is pleading for help using his residual. Sure doesn’t mean he was breathing OK to me.Never been in or witnessed a fight where a plea for help was not recognized and honored.