[RayChuang88]

In the end, this case is quite different than the Michael Brown case. For one thing, the officer who shot Michael Brown followed the rules of defending himself because Brown was a direct threat to him; meanwhile, it appeared the NYPD officers used way too much force trying to physically subdue Garner, who was not a physical threat to anyone.

[Rome2000]

Uh, no.

The NYPD used the USUAL amount of force they do.

[The KG9 Kid]

I’m flabbergasted that New York City places undercover police on the beat to identify unregulated street transactions of tobacco products and to arrest unlicensed tobacco merchants up to and including the use of deadly force at police discretion.

I just can’t get my head around it, yet New Yorkers seem accustomed to “Stop And Frisk” police policies without probable cause. Why should any of them be surprised when a policeman chokes an illicit cigarette merchant to death?

They wanted more big government, they got more big government. This is what more government looks like: Strangling a man to death over what’s basically worthy of a public citation. Maybe they’ll kill a man selling 17-ounce soda cups next.

This is also why those of us in the Western US states don’t want any mother-f’ing New York City billionaires messing around with our state laws.

[concerned about politics]

NYPD officers used way too much force trying to physically subdue Garner, who was not a physical threat to anyone.

From what I saw on the video, they followed police protocol. They told him he was under arrest. He resisted. They tried to cuff him. He resisted. Step three is to take him down for resisting arrest and get those cuffs on him.

It's a shame the man was so large and in such bad health, but there's no possable way the police could have known that. Had it been another, the man would have survived with nothing but a few scratches.