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To: Axenolith
Average IQ doesn't mean everyone of a particular subgroup has that for an IQ

Yeah I'm familiar with the definition of the word "average". While, as you noted, it doesn't mean everybody in the subgroup has that IQ what it DOES mean is that statistically half of the individuals in that group have higher and half have lower IQs. Therefore if an IQ of 85 is average and is considered dull normal/mildly retarded then HALF of the group has an even LOWER IQ, meaning that approximately one half of Negros are mildly to severely retarded! I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. It's very simple math. To suggest that a group, where half its number are mildly to severely retarded, isn't negatively affected by that fact is almost laughable. The relation between crime rate and IQ is well established and a quick search will provide you with hours of reading.

If IQ was the telling issue here, how does one deal with the fact that of the total of at or below 85 IQ people in the US, 45% of them are white and 32% of them are black?

If you assumed that the population of the U.S. was evenly distributed between blacks and whites then the percentages you provide would be difficult to explain BUT you've failed to note that 72% of the American population is white therefore comprising 45% of the 85 and below IQ group is not surprising and statistically lower than expected. Your figures actually support the facts (imagine that). Blacks comprise just 13% of the general population but represent a very disproportional full third of those with IQs of 85 or less.

If IQ was even remotely a significant factor in this then there should at least be a somewhat equivalent crime rate

There is. The crime rate is proportional to the percentage of the population comprised of a certain IQ range. Again a very simple search will yield volumes of information linking IQ and crime. Percentage-wise more Negros have IQs in the criminal range than whites.

I assert that the only reason that this isn't currently equal or close is that over the ~60 years of great society meddling, the primary target of that meddling was Americas black subset.

I agree that the government hasn't done the Negro any favors, to lay the blame for their plight solely at the feet of government is to ignore glaring facts. Our federal government has had NO effect on any of the many African nations and yet they remain mostly undeveloped with populations having average IQs of between 60 and 70. The low IQ explanation makes far more sense than to blame the condition of the Negro on the Federal government. The truth is not politically correct but it is still the truth.
143 posted on 12/03/2014 6:17:22 PM PST by 762X51
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To: 762X51
I agree that the government hasn't done the Negro any favors, to lay the blame for their plight solely at the feet of government is to ignore glaring facts. Our federal government has had NO effect on any of the many African nations and yet they remain mostly undeveloped with populations having average IQs of between 60 and 70. The low IQ explanation makes far more sense than to blame the condition of the Negro on the Federal government. The truth is not politically correct but it is still the truth.

The low IQ correlation does nothing to explain how they went from being within 10-15% of parity and rising with average America before the "great society" and their condition now.

It's actually more correlative to associate the cause of their IQ discrepancy WITH those programs.

One thing I've taken from this discussion... THOUSANDS of people and groups have and are doing studies on this, and everyone has a ****ing agenda on it. One group even took black children with a tested IQ of 83 (average), exposed them to mediated learning whereupon they tested average 97, and the people doing the study dismissed it because that result wasn't good enough to make them PERFECTLY EQUAL!!! ARRRRrrrrrggggggg...

So... How's the fishin' where you are 762X51?


149 posted on 12/06/2014 9:18:07 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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