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How Michael Brown Might Have Been Arrested Without the Use of Deadly Force
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/29/2014 | Jack Dunphy

Posted on 11/29/2014 9:50:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: FreeReign

I don’t think he would have been too eager to steal a cop’s gun if another cop was right next to him.


121 posted on 11/29/2014 1:11:58 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: yldstrk

“FReeper after FReeper attack me for saying so.”

Feel free to put me on your list. Don’t worry, I won’t try to change your mind. Your kind of stupidity can’t be fixed, so you’re just going to have to live in pain.


122 posted on 11/29/2014 1:12:05 PM PST by Gator113 ( Impeach. Remove from office. Arrest. Convict. Imprison for life.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unless you have been in that situation, you don’t know what you would do


123 posted on 11/29/2014 1:16:30 PM PST by rxtn41
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To: kabar

The left is attempting to give cover to the ferals that torched Ferguson...


124 posted on 11/29/2014 1:16:33 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Lol.


125 posted on 11/29/2014 1:19:34 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: JennysCool

Those businesses were already strapped from supporting the entire load themselves. If you want two cops to a car you will have to cough up the cash.


126 posted on 11/29/2014 1:20:47 PM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
An article in Police magazine [2] points out that of 536 police officers killed from 2000 to 2009, only about a third were working alone, suggesting that it’s somehow safer to work without a partner. I’m certain that a deeper exploration beyond the raw numbers would show this to be untrue

Well, yeah, Einstein, it's there in your sentence. Let me show you: "Fully two-thirds of officers killed from 2000 to 2009 were with a partner." Good analysis right there.

they might have taken an extra moment to discuss how they would handle a pedestrian stop of two men, one of whom weighed 300 lbs

Sounds like profiling! Seriously, though, should Wilson have been fully intending for a struggle for his gun to become the focal point of a simple jaywalking encounter? If so, then why are any cops working alone?

And even if Brown and Johnson eluded the search, how many people living on Canfield Drive are 6-3 and 300 lbs.?

An assumption on the author's part, and probably not a good one.

I can’t imagine he doesn’t harbor some regret at having placed himself in so precarious a position.

Another assumption. I can just as easily imagine that Wilson is still thinking, "Damn, all I did was tell the guy to get out of the middle of the road and use a crosswalk. That was worth what he did?"

This article is fast and loose with assumptions and lacks any decent analysis.

127 posted on 11/29/2014 1:24:48 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jack’s a dumbass..... the reason the criminal black thug got shot was because he refused to be arrested.

The death of such an oversize black thug was justice


128 posted on 11/29/2014 1:27:58 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: FreeReign
How much of a deterrent do you really think two cops would be.

Not much in the way of a rational deterrent, but having to focus on two cops rather than one might have confused Brown and thrown him off balance.

129 posted on 11/29/2014 1:32:20 PM PST by x
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To: SeekAndFind
As is painfully obvious, more officers per car equals fewer cars in operation - and less responsiveness. The car isn’t there when Brown passes by, and - viola! no confrontation with Brown, and no scene.

The author of the article is uninformed of the fact that, according to Wilson, he had heard enough of the call on the strong arm robbery that when he saw the box of cigars and confirmed that Brown’s accomplice wore a black shirt, he did think he was onto the perps of the robbery. Wilson made the judgement that he could delay Brown without needing deadly force until backup arrived. Bad guess, in the event.

Once Wilson learned how dangerous Brown could be, and the rap on Brown was not only strong-arm robbery but also assault and battery on a police officer, he could have wimped out and waited for backup, allowing Brown to leave unchallenged but kicking the can down the road for another officer to possibly get blindsided even worse. He elected not to do that - still hoping that timely backup would arrive and the incident would be contained. He did after all know that another car had already been dispatched to the robbery scene.

130 posted on 11/29/2014 1:43:18 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And if my Aunt had b@lls, she`d be my Uncle!


131 posted on 11/29/2014 1:59:48 PM PST by nomad
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To: yldstrk

You deserved to be attacked for being an idiot on this issue. The Grand Jury and most on FR believe that Wilson did nothing wrong. What is also evident is that you have a very anti-cop bias that muddles your thinking. You cannot hide the fact that it makes you sick to see a cop (like Wilson) exonerated.


132 posted on 11/29/2014 2:03:50 PM PST by ohioman
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To: ForYourChildren

well there is plenty of blame to go around that is for sure


133 posted on 11/29/2014 2:11:25 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about how he would have been at home packing his bags for college if his parents had stepped up to their responsibility.


134 posted on 11/29/2014 2:13:58 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Sherman Logan
But unlike during the trial, he is not obligated to present excuplatory evidence.

I believe you are misinformed.

The prosecutor is NOT obligated to present ANY exculpatory evidence to the jury at trial. He IS obligated to give any exculpatory evidence he possesses to the defense IF they request it, which the defense routinely does. It is then up to the defense to decide which exculpatory evidence, if any, to present to the jury.

All too frequently, the prosecutor will do whatever back-flips he can to hide exculpatory information from the defense (see Mike Nifong). If he gets caught at this, it can be grounds for having the verdict overturned, and in some cases the prosecutor has been held in contempt, although the latter rarely happens.

135 posted on 11/29/2014 2:25:47 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: SeekAndFind

This trash isn’t worth the pixels it’s written with.


136 posted on 11/29/2014 2:31:31 PM PST by 867V309 (Crusade: the only solution.)
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To: yldstrk

“well there is plenty of blame to go around that is for sure”

NO!


137 posted on 11/29/2014 2:31:55 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: x
Not much in the way of a rational deterrent, but having to focus on two cops rather than one might have confused Brown and thrown him off balance.

You're right. Couldn't hurt to have two cops instead of just one. Even for a case when a perp seems irrational.

138 posted on 11/29/2014 2:32:14 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: rmh47

You are correct, of course. I should have said he’s not obligated to provide exculpatory evidence to the defense. Since there is no defense at a grand jury hearing, that doesn’t apply.

Obviously, if the prosecutor had wanted to indict Wilson, he’d have been indicted.


139 posted on 11/29/2014 2:41:58 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: PIF

That is the umpteenth time I’ve read concerning an incident where a white cop killed a black perp, the cop when sizing up an in progress situation ( a robbery, an assault, etc.) should just either have driven away or waited for help and did nothing until help arrived. Unbelievable.


140 posted on 11/29/2014 2:44:39 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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