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To: Cheerio

He is wrong.

It is clear that something will have to be done besides sending 15 million people back to their home countries. As much as we might want that to happen, it is not going to happen. But with anything that gets done, we start with securing the border and getting rid of criminals.

Any type of amnesty begins with a limited number of people who have been productive, been here for a considerable period of time, paid taxes, and not been living on taxpayer money.


23 posted on 11/27/2014 6:51:53 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: doug from upland
It is clear that something will have to be done besides sending 15 million people back to their home countries. As much as we might want that to happen, it is not going to happen. But with anything that gets done, we start with securing the border and getting rid of criminals.

I am disappointed in you. You've bought into the big lie on deportation. How did the 15 million illegals get here? By bus, train, plane and walked - whatever. THEY CAN GO HOME VIA THE SAME MEANS. Stop playing into the hands of the enemy. This is not helping.

60 posted on 11/27/2014 7:17:57 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: doug from upland

How do you deport 15 million people? One at a time...does not matter how long it takes...


87 posted on 11/27/2014 7:58:03 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: doug from upland
It is clear that something will have to be done besides sending 15 million people back to their home countries. As much as we might want that to happen, it is not going to happen. But with anything that gets done, we start with securing the border and getting rid of criminals.

No, Romney said it during the campaign , "self deportation" and the MSM bbq'd him for it. The argument that we need to have wide open borders or round up people in the streets is a false one that the MSM pushes. We all know the common sense solution. :

1) Secure the borders - this means we keep track of student visas , who's coming and going etc. Hell, if you're wrong on your taxes for one year, they'll spend a fortune tracking you down and making sure you pay all fines and penalties, so the government can do this if it wants.
2) Enforce the laws on the books. That means using an e-verify system to see who's legal and who isn't. Make the fines for hiring an illegal so onerous that any business will think twice before chancing it. Again with all the spying this regime does on the population, don't tell me they don't know exactly who's legal and who isn't.
3) End welfare, EBT, free public education for illegals and their kids.
4) Repeal the 1965 Kennedy immigration law. End chain migration. We base immigration on what the immigrant can bring for the country. Immigration to the US was once a privilege, not a right. We need to return to that mindset.

Once this type of thinking goes into place the magnet for illegals will be shut off, and those here will return home.

Finally, has anyone considered, why countries like Honduras, Mexico and Nicaragua are petitioning the regime for even more migrants to enter the US? We're constantly told what a boost to our economy they are. So why , if these people are so valuable, are their home countries not screaming that they want their citizens back? Think of the boon to these third world countries these industrious migrants would represent.

88 posted on 11/27/2014 8:00:03 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: doug from upland

Of course we could send 15 million illegal aliens back to their own countries, it would take a little time but it most definitely could be done. Those 15 million are not congregated in one place, they are scattered about the country, and there is plenty of law enforcement scattered about the country as well. Remember, too, if we start cracking down on this, many will self deport as well.


135 posted on 11/27/2014 10:04:51 AM PST by erkelly
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To: doug from upland

I still say send them all back.Shut off all the freebies and they’re history.


221 posted on 11/27/2014 6:40:28 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: doug from upland
It is clear that something will have to be done besides sending 15 million people back to their home countries. As much as we might want that to happen, it is not going to happen. But with anything that gets done, we start with securing the border and getting rid of criminals.

Any type of amnesty begins with a limited number of people who have been productive, been here for a considerable period of time, paid taxes, and not been living on taxpayer money. I beg to differ. I think you have swallowed some of the leftist propaganda e.g. We can't deport millions & millions blah blah blah; so, we must amnesty some blah blah blah.

I would suggest you turn the argument on its head e.g. we can't import millions & millions blah blah blah... Well if we cant import millions & millions then HOW did they get here?

In other words, the premise that it is America's task to round up & deport all the illegals in some set period of time is a flawed premise. There is no either this or that legitimate argument that bypasses the rule of law and the enforcement thereof...

I would suggest that all the illegals who funded their own passage here & planned such can just as well do the reverse without a big government hand IF.... America simply secures the border & enforces the immigration laws -ALL the immigration laws. Doing this will see an eventual decrease in illegals. There is no time limit for success nor a time limit reason to not start doing the right thing right now! When there is nothing here for illegals, INCLUDING the dream of some future amnesty, they will go away. In my opinion, amnesty now real or even potential will only increase the amount of illegals... America must send a clear message NO MORE DAMN AMNESTIES, NOW OR EVER AGAIN!

223 posted on 11/27/2014 6:41:23 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: doug from upland

No illegal should be able to work in the USA, PERIOD

FINE the employer

ENFORCE the law

NO AMNESTY FOR CRIMINALS


227 posted on 11/27/2014 7:19:15 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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