3D ARMY GAINS 5 MILES, SPLITS MAGINOT LINE; U.S. FLIERS SMASH 129 PLANES IN REICH BLOWS (11/27/44)

Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 11/27/44 | Drew Middleton, Gene Currivan, Dana Adams Schmidt, Tania Long, Milton Bracker, George Horne, more

[henkster]

Thanks for the document and link. I have some light reading to do during football games today. This is going to be fascinating. And we have to keep Homer interested in this project long enough to comment on the Nuremberg trials.

[Amagi]

Epic series, Homer J. Simpson.
Thank you, and Happy Thanksgiving.

"Seven feet tall he was,
with arms like tree trunks.
His eyes were like steel, cold, hard.
Had a shock of hair --- red like the fires of Hell."

[fso301]

I must admit I am surprised that the panzer divisions that will take part in the Ardennes Offensive don't show up on the German maps yet. That attack is less than three weeks away. In fact, it had originally been scheduled for December 10 but was postponed. I would have expected to see some indication of the assembly of units on Hitler's own map, but they still show far off the to the northeast, still in "Auffrischung." (Replenishment) The HQs of Manteuffel's 5th Panzer Army is still around Aachen, and the 6th Panzer Army HQ is nowhere to be seen. Very curious.

Just a guess but after Kursk, the Germans knew they leaked intelligence like a seive. Never suspecting an Enigma/Ultra compromise, they disproportionately blamed the intelligence leaks on the Red Orchestra

After the July Plot, I suspect the fanatical Nazis didn't trust anyone. I wouldn't be surprised that there existed a separate set of maps strictly for Wacht am Rhein planners.

[fso301]

And we have to keep Homer interested in this project long enough to comment on the Nuremberg trials.

Yes indeed. I don't see how this can end any sooner than the Hungarian Revolution.

[Amagi]

I don't see how this can end any sooner than the Hungarian Revolution.

I was thinking more like this lasting until at least President Reagan demanded that Gorby tear down the Berlin Wall.

[fso301]

I was thinking more like this lasting until at least President Reagan demanded that Gorby tear down the Berlin Wall.

You make a good point!

[iowamark]

I thought: “Homer must have dipped in the holiday cheer last night and slept late today.”

[PapaNew]

And Happy (belated) Thanksgiving to you and your family. Hope you had an enjoyable day.

[colorado tanker]

Happy belated Thanksgiving, Homer. Certainly one of the many things I am thankful for is these thread, which have given me a unique and novel perspective on the War no other source has.

It also is a fitting honor for the vets who at 70 years we are losing fast. And for all those uncles who didn't come home.