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To: ansel12

I am not insulting anyone.

Tell me a military action since Vietnam that was in the national security interest of the US—with the single exception of the attacks in Afghanistan in 2001-02.

You are the one that equated the deaths of our soldiers to those killed in traffic accidents. I think dismissing their deaths as less than those of mostly drunk idiots is an insult to the dead soldiers.

What I am saying is that you appear to be unable to step back from your service—which I do respect and honor—to see how the governments of the US have used military force.

Young men have been put in harms way for nothing that constituted a threat. And even in the cases where we were attacking a threat, we turned it into an occupation so that their girls could go to school? Are you kidding me?

We should use our massive and superior force, destroy the enemy threat and go home.

Instead we waste our monetary and physical resources trying to convert savages who haven’t changed their view of the world since BEFORE the dark ages.

Other countries have strong economies because our military has been stationed there to protect them. It is time to bring them home. It is time to let the Arabs defend their own homes. It is time for Germany to step up. It is time for South Korea and Japan to step up.

If we do not do that, we will be faced with a massive conflict and we will not be able to really secure our true national interest. Lets go back to the premise of my original comment. I think this nation would have been better off not engaging in a lot of the crap we’ve found ourselves involved in. Our forces would be well trained, well equipped and our national economy would be much healthier.

Why does anyone questioning the application of US forces get called unpatriotic?

I am well aware of the sacrifices of the individual soldiers, their families, and the dangers they face. I absolutely and unequivocally support the member of the US Armed Forces.

Soldiers, sailors, Aircrew and Marines go where they are told and do what they are ordered to do. Anyone criticizing the application of that force and indeed criticizes the individuals, does not have an understanding of how stuff works. I understand how it works.

I do not support the application of that force. And the nation would be a better place if we were more thoughtful about where we sent them, how we limit them, and what we do after we win the battle.

So, if you are unable to make that distinction, I have to question your basic understanding of how things work.


39 posted on 11/26/2014 8:13:51 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Vermont Lt

The usual peacenikstuff, I don’t know where you get that traffic fatality nonsense as you denigrate us and our dead fellow GIs as dupes and fools with misguided patriotism from TV and movies.

When were you a Lieutenant in the military, was it during this 40 year period that you mock the rest of us for serving in, or before that?


41 posted on 11/26/2014 8:42:34 AM PST by ansel12
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