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To: Jim Robinson
The only valid constitutional remedy for an obviously out of control criminal president is impeachment!!

Unfortunately any talk of impeachment will play into Obama's ongoing strategy of branding Republicans as racist. This will strengthen his position, and enable him to push through even more destructive policy than if we don't take this approach.

Some of the well-intentioned Republicans have spent a lot of time amassing data on past Obama crimes (the IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Solyndra, etc.) and I think that we could have a darned good shot at pressing forward on one or more of these issues, and actually demonstrate that crimes have been committed.

As for the amnesty itself... most Americans couldn't even name one of their own Senators or their own district's House representative, so how should we expect them to understand the implications of Obama's amnesty order?

Americans don't understand executive orders, or even understand what the three branches of government are for. All they know is what the media (which is essentially run by Democrats) tell them. The MSM will tell them that racists want to impeach Obama, or that racists hate immigrants... that's about the extent of the ability of many Americans to think.

Our Republicans can take a different approach. They can talk in terms most Americans can understand. They can start talking about bills to FUND Obama's amnesty... there will be money (and lots of it) needed to house, feed, school and provide medical care for these new millions of people.

Republicans should propose ways to provide these funds... like cuts to food stamps, or taxes on abortions, or some other liberal cause. They can modify Section 8 housing rules to set aside 50% of housing for these immigrants... let the new immigrants go to the head of the line for college grants and loans, leaving Obama's people behind even further.

Hispanics and blacks seem to hate each other... this could be our chance to show blacks that Dems don't give a hoot about them... they're being pushed aside so a whole new group can climb the ladder in America and it's going to be largely at the expense of blacks.

75 posted on 11/20/2014 1:52:30 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

If he’s not impeached and removed and all of his illegal/unconstitutional actions repealed/reversed/rescinded/abolished/nullified the Republicans lose big time. And even more so, the Constitution, the rule of law, the Republic and we the people are permanent losers.


81 posted on 11/20/2014 2:01:13 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Cementjungle
Unfortunately any talk of impeachment will play into Obama's ongoing strategy of branding Republicans as racist. This will strengthen his position, and enable him to push through even more destructive policy than if we don't take this approach.

You are talking like a policy wonk/Rovian acolyte.

We have already been fundamentally transformed from a Representative Republic into this Fascist Oligarchy that now rules from D.C.. Amnesty officially ends the form of representative Democracy we once had, so the political considerations you are worrying about are moot already.

Our Republicans can take a different approach. They can talk in terms most Americans can understand. They can start talking about bills to FUND Obama's amnesty

So you are actually talking about FUNDING LAWLESSNESS???????????

That is as complicit in our destruction as Obama himself is in declaring what he is about to decree by fiat.

Hispanics and blacks seem to hate each other... this could be our chance to show blacks that Dems don't give a hoot about them... they're being pushed aside so a whole new group can climb the ladder in America and it's going to be largely at the expense of blacks.

So you share the thinking of Rove and the other GOP Oligarchs in D.C who are pissed off they do not have a hand in what Obama is going to do tonight.

Your mindset rewards treason towards the Constitution and it's beyond insulting.

89 posted on 11/20/2014 2:35:41 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cementjungle

No under paragraph 2 of the Declaration of Ind. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.” Is all the authority we need to remove all the crooks in dc.!


107 posted on 11/20/2014 3:38:38 PM PST by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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