Stephen Kessler: Why all Californians are Mexican

Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 16 November 2014 | Stephen Kessler

[Regulator]

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848, which ended the Mexican War and for a cool $15 million acquired what is now the entire southwestern United States — Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and parts of Wyoming and Colorado — from Mexico was an uncannily well-timed moment in U.S. history. Could American negotiators have known that within a year gold would be discovered in California and the flood of Anglo and other immigrants into this state would be the beginning of a population boom still going on 165 years later?

[Regulator]

Mr. Kessler, recently of Eastern Europe by way of Los Angeles, is of the opinion that This Is Mexico and It's Their Land, Not Yours.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Mr. Kessler can kiss my a$$

[Regulator]

El Ping. A little comic relief from the Treason Crowd.

[RightGeek]

California had Spanish settlers mostly ignored by a corrupt Mexican government that claimed a large part of Central America too.

[Regulator]

Oh those pesky facts...can’t have that!

[HiJinx]

Ping!

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[UNGN]

He must have missed the part when we conquered the Mexican Army and marching into Mexico City to accept Mexico’s surrender.

Mexico belonged to US, but even we realized it sucked, so we gave most of it back.

[Regulator]

so we gave most of it back

We did better than that - out of Christian guilt we paid them for it, when really there was no reason to.

He implies that the $15 million was chump change but that was actual dollars in 1846 - corrected for inflation it was billions. It helped the Mexican Republic with their debts.

There was opposition to the Mexican War in the U.S. (Lincoln and Thoreau being famous cases) so this was a political sop to them.

[El Cid]

Great.
Does that mean I don't have to pay my steenk'n taxes no more?
Si, se puede! Arriba! (etc, etc...)

[Ready4Freddy]

"The waves of Mexican (and Central American) immigrants returning to California"

Boolshiite

[Iron Munro]

C an we use this logic to force the Indians to take back NY City?

[Regulator]

You forgot the parentheses around “logic”

[Dr. Sivana]

I was waiting for him to give a reason why the treaty was invalid. It would have been amusing if that treaty was invalid and the later Gadsden Purchase was OK.

No legal arguments are given. Basically, he is defining Mexcian as a cultural identity, not a legal one. That being the case, we may as well call Californians Spaniards. However, all prerogatives stemming from the Papal dividing line between Spain and Portugal are long gone.

Ahh, poor Mexicans living in the U.S. State of California, betrayed by history and your own people . . . c’est la guerre.

[Regulator]

How can ya return to someplace you’ve never been?

[AppyPappy]

So people in California don’t have to pay federal income taxes?

[Dr. Sivana]

He implies that the $15 million was chump change but that was actual dollars in 1846 - corrected for inflation it was billions.

Or, five times the size of the Louisiana Purchase. Or was Napoleon forced to sell it off?

[stephenjohnbanker]

LOL!

[Ready4Freddy]

‘zactly

[Tijeras_Slim]

We paid the same amount for the Louisiana Purchase and a bit over $7 million for Alaska.

The government made better deals in those days.

[vette6387]

“”The waves of Mexican (and Central American) immigrants returning to California””

Yeah, just how can you “return” to a place where you’ve never been in your life? It’s just like how can the term “African American” apply to people who’ve never been in Africa in the first place?