Smug Obama administration duped the public

Carroll County Times ^ | Nov. 14, 2014 | Dr. Charles Lipson

[DeweyCA]

Assuming Gruber's message is true, it means the Obama administration deliberately evaded our democratic process to pass its signature legislation. Its justification, which Gruber makes explicit, is not only that "we know what's best for you," but also that "you are too dense to know that yourself."

This arrogant, condescending approach extends far beyond Obamacare. It is an essential feature of progressive politics for the past century. From the outset, progressive politics yoked expert advice to expansive state action, especially redistributive policies to help the poor.

It says, "We are experts who want to help you, the great unwashed. You are too stupid and uneducated to know how to know what's best for you. Since we do know, and since we have your best interests at heart, we will handle those complex choices for you."

It's an intellectual's version of noblesse oblige.

[SkyPilot]

Progressivism truly is satanic.

Yes it is. People refuse to trust in God, so God gives them over to evil tyrants. It has been repeated again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again throughout history.

Just read 1 and 2 Kings for a brief description.

The problem is, those of us who have faith and believe in the Almighty are force to suffer along with the rest of the rabble that brought us here.

And then when we complain, we are labeled with every slander and profanity they can imagine.

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You said....
“As I recall, the majority of the public opposed obamacare. So who did they fool?”

The Democratic Party base. The real hardcore hopeychangers. That includes the press

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[rockinqsranch]

Thanks again. I remembered to read the entire article this evening, and agree with your assessment.

[Dqban22]

Not a simple Republican senator or Congressman voted in favor of that monstrosity called Obamacare. It must be make perfectly clear that democrat Phd com man Gruber, called stupid not all the American voters, but just the democrat voters that put the “Liar in Chief” in the White House, in spite of his Marxist anti-American back ground, and all the Democrats legislators co-conspirators with the president and the MSM in the greatest deception against the American people in the history of the United States.

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Not a simple Republican senator or Congressman voted in favor of that monstrosity called Obamacare. It must be make perfectly clear that democrat Phd com man Gruber, called stupid not all the American voters, but just the democrat voters that put the “Liar in Chief” in the White House, in spite of his Marxist anti-American back ground, and all the Democrats legislators co-conspirators with the president and the MSM in the greatest deception against the American people in the history of the United States.

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[SaraJohnson]

Right and well said.

[Liz]

Obamacare is all about the federal government making decisions on behalf of Americans because -- as Gruber and his liberal comrades would argue -- stupid Americans are unable, or unwilling, to make the choices that elites believe advance the social good.

Obama, and these hate-filled deranged fiends, would have us live our lives as they see fit.

The preening, duplicitous Gruber---the embodiment of cockamamie far-left thinking---apparently believes it’s his moral duty to lie, deceive and collude w/ the US govt......so that these revolting ideas can be imposed on us "sub-mental defectives' taking up valuable space in their Utopian America.

Obama and the Democratic lock-steppers flat-out invented mechanisms in Obamacare to serve Marxist Obama's dreams of wealth transfer:

(1) throwing Americans off affordable health plans,

(2) nationalizing 1/6 of the US economy,

3) installing IPAB's (healthcare rationing),

(4) decimating intergenerational transfers of wealth (grandma/pa's holdings go to the govt---not to Americans),

(5) pulling $750 billion out of Medicare,

(6) drug-rationing---death panels,

(8) abandoning seniors and the chronically ill,

(9) forcing healthy young Americans to subsidize healthcare for the elderly.

[Liz]

.....Obama is now denying Gruber played a significant role in designing Obamacare: “The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is not a reflection on the actual process that was run.”

Obama also evidently believes the WH press pack is also stupid......he could be right....b/c not one reporter asked how such an unimportant adviser as Gruber got into the White House meeting during which the deceptive “Cadillac Tax” was concocted.....w/ Obama present...

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LET'S CONNECT THE DOTS---The salient point is this: Gruber acting as an independent researcher is one thing---but Gruber consorting w/ many people in govt figuring out ways to lie in order to dupe the tax-paying public is a CONSPIRACY.

POINTS TO PONDER:

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy's govt fraud---manipulating Medicare for some $500 million----to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

In sum, the makings of a conpiracy are documented---Gruber had influence over the CBO, the White House, and Congress alike. It's hard to overestimate his importance; Gruber's role was central to the efforts of President Obama and his Democratic allies to shove Obamacare down an unwilling citizenry’s throat.

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[Liz]

I'M SURE VALERIE KNOWS (/SNIX)---Obama is downplaying Gruber's role, claiming he had no part in passing healthcare.

But if Gruber was NOT the Obamacare architect---then Gruber took money under false pretenses and should be prosecuted for govt fraud. He took tax dollars from the feds and state govts "posing" as an expert.

TAXPAYERS DEMAND CONGRESS GET ANSWERS WRT GRUBER'S CASHING-IN ON THE BACKS OF "STUPID" TAXPAYERS

Four U.S. states and the federal government (read taxpayers) have padded Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber's wallet to the tune of $5.9 million since 2000, including millions connected to his work on the Affordable Care Act.

We need investigations---to see how our tax dollars changed hands---and landed into Gruber's pockets. The disdainful, preening Gruber was paid tax dollars to spin his web of lies...and to reiterate his contempt for taxpayers who are footing the bills.

Even more disturbing is the massive, multi-billion-dollar slush fund the self-serving Gruber hid from "stupid" Americans in Obamacare. Gruber made dam sure it was kept hidden from us stupid taxpayers.

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The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed.

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Taxpayers demand to know ---- why Gruber/Obama/Pelosi didnt reveal that Obamacare contains a multi-billion dollar slush fund?

Exactly who is cashing in?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to offshore banks is almost palpable.

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