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To: Monorprise

Agreed. The only real chance Patriots have is Revolution - cleaning the whole mess out and starting over.

Before we get to that point, however, real pain will exist for the Citizens of this once-great Nation.


95 posted on 11/15/2014 5:47:39 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

“Agreed. The only real chance Patriots have is Revolution - cleaning the whole mess out and starting over.

Before we get to that point, however, real pain will exist for the Citizens of this once-great Nation.”

Our cultural problems in terms of the primacy of individual self-pleasure over family poses a far more devastating problem in the long run than our legal problems with the break down of our Constitutional system.

That said if we are able to convince our children and Grand children to return to a family first mindset, and start raising kids again as the center of their lives.

Then the legal problems can be resolved in one of a few ways depending upon what happens in the next 6 months to a year.

If Obama is successfully removed from office and it is proved as a political process thus empowering congress. Then the problem will return to a imperial Washington Problem. Until congress is again divided and Presents take up Obama’s doctoral in-sticks again.

If however Congress caves and Obama has his way Republicans will have to rise up in the States not today but in the next decade, as the States rights and autonomy movement will gain steam taking on the imperial presidency cause as part of its moral justification.

Then if Conservative ever win the Presidency again, the new President will have to uses the same powers to strip Washington of its armies and and bureaucratic mechism to the effect that most federal employees simply quit leaving the Practical power balance in the hands of the already aggravated and aggressive State legislators.

When and if that is done, then his successor who will no doubt try to reverse the changes will have the makings of a Civil war style fight on his hands with most of the armies in our Hands. That there will the grounds for a revolution.

Unless of course there is a compromise that meets half way at which point we have established a framework for future compromises with regional less centralized authority taking on the bulk of the otherwise conservative domestic policy issues. Which of course means partisans will be able to exerciser two votes if they don’t like the outcome of either one.(the ballot and their feet). Everybody wins outside of Washington’s power brokers.

Of course is our demographic base falls apart due to the aforementioned cultural value problem leading to collapse, this country is going to look very much like a Central/south american banana republic either way, as there will be no assimilation power to moderate the Central American cultural tendency towards caudillismo.


97 posted on 11/15/2014 7:21:59 PM PST by Monorprise
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