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Scientist apologizes for his sexist shirt, but the Internet still wants women to shut up and die
WaPo ^ | 11-14-14 | Rachel Feltman

Posted on 11/14/2014 4:46:14 PM PST by smokingfrog

Matt Taylor, who's a great scientist and seems to also be a pretty cool dude, gave a teary, heartfelt apology for his choice of attire on the day of Rosetta's probe landing.

"I made a big mistake, and I offended many people," Taylor said at Friday's media briefing, his voice trembling, "and I'm very sorry about this."

With that, the briefing moved onto the science (as it should -- Philae's days are numbered, and we want to find out as much as we can from the little probe that could). Taylor seemed to have trouble speaking for a few minutes, but perked up by the end. Many praised his apology on Twitter, and whether or not he was aware of that response, it seemed to have taken a weight off his shoulders.

Because none of the people calling out Taylor's attire wanted him blacklisted from science, or punished, or to run into a corner and cry. The coolest people in the world (like the ones who land probes on comets) should also be held to the highest standards -- they're the ones that the children of the world are watching for cues.

And for young women in the world, a shirt covered in hyper-sexualized women does not send a good message, conscious or otherwise.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: apology; churyumovgerasimenko; comet67p; cometlanding; culturewar; doublestandard; fashionpolice; feminists; geekshaming; hawaiianshirt; matttaylor; philae; rosetta; savethemales; unitedkingdom; waronwomenmeme; whatwashewearing
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To: smokingfrog

He should not have apologized.


41 posted on 11/14/2014 5:28:11 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Excellent point. I wonder how Rachel would explain her “cool guy” displaying such hideous self-mutiliation.

Even former jailbirds know enough to wear long sleeve shirts in public.


42 posted on 11/14/2014 5:28:33 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: smokingfrog

He’s obviously a big anime freak. That shirt and his tattoos are anime characters. If the women freak out about his shirt, what do they have to say about the women who dress up for cosplay conventions? I’d hate to see what the good doctor dresses as, but some of the women at those conventions are really hot.


43 posted on 11/14/2014 5:32:05 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: smokingfrog
Amy Mainzer, Hot science chick.


44 posted on 11/14/2014 5:32:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Black Agnes

Are you talking about the generic “NASA Geek” look? Which consists of a white dress shirt, solid black tie, pocket protector filled with pencils, pens and the mandatory slide rule, topped off with the black plastic “birth control” glasses? That’s just as bad, if not worse in it’s own way. Most geniuses are a litte weird and eccentric. I think this is a expression of that eccentricity. If that’s not your thing, fine. But no matter what he looks like, it’s hard to argue with success. I guess for me I don’t really care what you look like. My question is can you do the job and show results? And this guy gets it done.

CC


45 posted on 11/14/2014 5:32:34 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (stercus accidit)
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To: CatherineofAragon

This is like wearing pajamas to work.

And not at the local lunch counter.

And I rode on the subway in NYC with plenty of ‘dressing genres’. This shirt wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow on the subway.

As I said, I worked senior level R&D for over a decade and NEVER experienced someone wearing something like this to work. And I was the only female in an entire 20+ person department of PhD’s. The GROWN men I worked with may have been teenagers at heart, but they channeled those particular energies somewhere OTHER than work.

Not even the blue collar employees who worked the loading dock wore such things.

It’s not just sloppy. It’s seriously unprofessional.

And the level of unprofessional in someone at his level of education and employment is enough to make me question other aspects of his employability and trustworthiness.

And it would have been unprofessional 50 years ago at NASA.

And because it WOULD have been offensive to the women in the office, mostly secretaries, the mangers would have told him to turn around, go home and put on something else.

Offensive then, offensive now.

My own very feminine southern belle grandmother would have ceased to do business with any establishment she frequented had he worn such a shirt there.

I double dog dare you to find such a shirt in any ‘common’ pictures from the 1920’s and 30’s.

And it was the women who would have strenuously objected to it.

Unless you’re a bartender at a really low class establishment, it’s really inappropriate attire at any place of ‘educated’ employment.


46 posted on 11/14/2014 5:32:52 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Maybe he tended bar while working his way through college.


47 posted on 11/14/2014 5:33:56 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BenLurkin
"Even former jailbirds know enough to wear long sleeve shirts in public."

Hah! Just when I figured I was an official old fart I found another one.

Brother we are living in the dark ages. This guy was a real kid when the mission was launched.

48 posted on 11/14/2014 5:35:58 PM PST by theneanderthal
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To: BenLurkin

They’re appropriately clad in wraparound outfits. It’s just the “subservient” depiction that would set the “wymyn” off.

CC


49 posted on 11/14/2014 5:37:43 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (stercus accidit)
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To: cripplecreek

I wouldn’t mind being trapped in the planetarium with her. ...


50 posted on 11/14/2014 5:39:06 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BenLurkin; smokingfrog

51 posted on 11/14/2014 5:40:31 PM PST by maggief
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To: smokingfrog
You need a full length photo to get the full effect:


52 posted on 11/14/2014 5:42:50 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Celtic Conservative

It’s a cultural comment on how far we’ve fallen that such a shirt would have been allowed in the front door on a PhD level employee. Regardless of their level of performance. Unless he owned the company. The ‘dress code’ of the generation that put us on the moon showed respect for themselves and the job they were trying to do. And they all probably owned dubious bowling shirts as well, given the time period. They just didn’t wear them to WORK.

Did you EVER see Ronald Reagan wearing a t shirt or golf shirt in the Oval Office? Ever? Imagine Ronnie wearing THIS shirt in ANY public photograph. Not even when he was in Hollywood.

Imagine Neils Bohr or Einstein or Heisenberg wearing such a thing to work. Never happen.

Thousands of men (yes, mostly men) have come before him and accomplished just as spectacular scientific feats. I can’t remember any of them wearing a shirt from the establishment of ‘Larry the Lounge Lizard’ in any pics I’ve ever seen of those accomplishments. Somehow they manged to achieve those feats without the unprofessionalism. Which makes me wonder what’s ‘not right’ with this guy.

And I worked with LOTS of seriously ‘off’ guys with PhD’s. If they could manage to get dressed in the morning in professional work clothing, what’s wrong with this guy?

This guy may have IQ but he doesn’t have class.

Or social tact.

And it’s just as inappropriate as the female scientist wearing the boob showing low cut dress with no bra and high heeled (insert verb here) shoes. I worked with one of those. For a millisecond. She couldn’t understand why, as intelligent as she was (and she was), that no one took her seriously. I was like....’realllly’... And then she married one of the Board of Directors...who just happened to need a divorce right then...


53 posted on 11/14/2014 5:44:21 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: maggief

Dang - sold out.


54 posted on 11/14/2014 5:44:35 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Watching another good looking eastern European astrophysicist talking about the possibility of alternate universes right now.


55 posted on 11/14/2014 5:46:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Paraphrased quote from Dr. Temple Grandon.

If not for autism man would still be standing around the cave entrance fire.

56 posted on 11/14/2014 5:46:40 PM PST by theneanderthal
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To: smokingfrog

LOL.

Maybe he thinks he’s still tending bar.

Maybe the ESA can’t afford to pay him enough for him to buy grown up man clothes...


57 posted on 11/14/2014 5:47:40 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: smokingfrog

Look anyone ever see the art on a ww2 flight jacket?


58 posted on 11/14/2014 5:48:56 PM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: Black Agnes

Well, I guess you and I just disagree on this position. I do respect your views, I just don’t share them.

CC


59 posted on 11/14/2014 5:52:23 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (stercus accidit)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m pretty sure there is an alternate universe inside Nancy Pelosi’s head.


60 posted on 11/14/2014 5:53:12 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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