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None of us work hard enough and give enough money in the primary season. We are another version of the slobs who don’t even know there’s a midterm election whatever that means. We only catch on when the media start shouting it from every rooftop. Then it’s too late. Too many conservatives have been defeated by RINOs.

I’m including myself of course.

And excluding all those who beat their brains out for the right people.

I’m just stating a very general truth. We start too late to notice what is happening.


254 posted on 11/14/2014 8:57:10 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Generally yes. but then there’s the other kind I rail on as well. Some people start out doing the right thing for the right people for the right reason. then they are screamed at by the Freeper left and the left wing of every other ‘right wing’ site about how evil they are for not backing the RINO/GOPe candidate that can WIN! because this is the most important election ever and next time they can push for the conservative but right now is too important and we need party unity because if you don’t elect their Rino then you love Obama, hate America and are Yosemite Sam on a dragon. Conservatives in name only - Cheshires here only to keep the pot stirred, feed us GOPe bullshit and prevent us from coming together behind conservative candidates. Every single election this happens. And every single election, conservatives lose primaries because the people I mention above go down the fear filled path to RINOville by these plants.

We live with 30 years worth of results. It has to stop.


255 posted on 11/14/2014 9:32:18 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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Brand, it will help all of us to get more fire from heaven and to apply it where possible to try to influence the outcome of earth’s politics to a more rather than less heavenly condition.

You’re right, the low popularity of “minor” votes is telling. I’m no paragon of perfection there. But one can always vote for God on one’s knees. We should always try to bring more of God into what we are doing.

As I pointed out in a parallel debate I am carrying out, a politician we tried to supplant with someone better may end up being the most likely conduit of God’s blessings, knowing that our involvement with our neighbor is not just “Set And Forget” but ongoing. We vote for a governor or whoever, and then we pray for God’s grace to make a way through the selfsame person or whoever managed to get the official nod.


267 posted on 11/15/2014 7:17:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: firebrand

And yes, the bible is clear. The Holy Spirit urged (through St. Paul) to make prayers for “kings and all who are in authority.” As the proverb puts it, the heart of the king is like channels of water in God’s hands. An initial answer that seems to be “no” may change and become “yes” with a continual petitioning of Heaven. Even the hard hearted may relent or refrain before the Lord’s restraining influence.

Perhaps Barack Obama himself is finally beginning to be disgusted with the spectacle before him. If he is, that must be credited to the grace of God. It is those who naysay the promises of scripture that lack the power to petition the Lord effectively.


268 posted on 11/15/2014 7:24:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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