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To: conservativegranny; firebrand; Norm Lenhart

No reasonable commander launches an attach which he knows will fail. Until you can name a sufficient number of democrats who will vote to convict, you are only advocating a reckless assault with no chance of success. That is so dumb it borders on criminal.


129 posted on 11/13/2014 4:42:32 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Principles without power aren't worth spit.)
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To: DugwayDuke

And your refusal to act on the laws of the constitution go over the border entirely. What? It’s not good enough for you?


130 posted on 11/13/2014 4:44:36 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: DugwayDuke

No commander knows whether they will be victorious at the outset of a battle. Only God knows the sure outcome. You may have the odds against you but then do you not fight? I suppose some would not but many have gone into battle with little in their favor except a belief in God and that God was on their side.

It is a good thing that Washington didn’t have your sage advice. I have read the stories of battles during the Revolution where the odds were greatly against the Patriots. Indeed, a majority wanted to avoid confrontation with the British. The Americans had no army nor a navy. The British ruled the seas. They were a super power. What reasoned chance did a ragtag group of cobbled together farmers and townsmen, many without weapons, have against a well trained and funded British army and navy?

Washington got down on his knees and prayed to God knowing that the odds were greatly against his men. Yet they prevailed.

What of Capt. John Paul Jones who took on the British at sea during the Revolutionary War? When asked to surrender he famously replied “I have only begun to fight!” Again, with all odds against him and a greatly inferior navy he prevailed. I would not consider Washington nor Jones “stupid”.

I would also not consider impeachment charges against a tyrannical and lawless president who has destroyed our country, put our lives in danger, lied, stole money from our citizens to redistribute to others and enabled an invasion on our borders failing to protect our sovereignty a “reckless assault”.

The problem is that we have too many who are afraid. Afraid of what the other side is going to say about us, afraid of making Obama a martyr (whatever that would mean)or that this is some kind of political trap that the left wants us to step into or how the media will present it. Baloney! These are all cowardice excuses. Impeachment is a DUTY.

News flash: The left will always paint their enemies in a bad light and say bad things & lie about them. The media will always dislike us and say bad things and lie about us. If Obama is a made a martyr those to whom he is will never like us anyway and will always lie and say bad stuff about us.

Since the repubs do not plan on overturning Obamacare, shutting down the government, putting the reins on government spending, closing our borders or much of anything else shouldn’t they be doing something to earn their salaries? What else do they have to do with their time? They certainly haven’t had an aversion to running dog-and-pony show investigations that have gone nowhere.

And unless you have a crystal ball you have no idea how this would turn out. I believe that the majority of the American people are despairing of their representatives stopping this self-made king and would WELCOME and support any move to impeach Obama. With enough pressure and the American public DEMANDING impeachment you have no idea who may vote which way.

You want to compare a move to impeach to going into a battle in war? Really? Who is going to die here? I don’t think there will be any loss of life if we attempt to impeach Obama but I can guaranty you that people will die if we do not.


135 posted on 11/13/2014 5:57:06 PM PST by conservativegranny
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To: DugwayDuke

This is not war. It is still politics. Impeachment has a power of its own to change the scenery. There is time for people to call their senators and make their wishes known. And there is time for the discussion to develop.

And I’m not a commander. I’m just someone on a website saying what I believe Congress must do.

Rove is wrong. It is not the pro-impeachment people who are going over the top. It is people comparing our constitutional duty to the Charge of the Light Brigade.


151 posted on 11/13/2014 8:53:08 PM PST by firebrand
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