Posted on 11/10/2014 9:31:37 AM PST by Kaslin
Meet Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT and an architect of Obamacare. During panel event last year about how the legislation passed, turning over a sixth of the U.S. economy to the government, Gruber admitted that the Obama administration went through "tortuous" measures to keep the facts about the legislation from the American people, including covering up the redistribution of wealth from the healthy to the sick in the legislation that Obamacare is in fact a tax. The video of his comments just recently surfaced ahead of the second open enrollment period for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov.
"You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that," Gruber said. "In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not."
GRUBER: "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage."
A few points. 1.Notice how lying to the American people is completely justified by Obama administration standards so long as the ends justify the means. Gruber would "rather have this law than not," and therefore purposely lying about what the law actually is in order to get it passed is completely acceptable. regardless of the negative effects it has on the lives of Americans. 2. Lack of transparency might be a huge political advantage in the short term, but long term there are consequences from voters, which is exactly what we saw last week during the Democrat blood bath at every level of government across the country. 3. Insulting Americans as stupid and deceiving them is a really good way to lose your power on Capitol Hill, which is again exactly what we saw last week in the 2014 midterms. Twenty-eight Senators who voted for Obamacare are now out of the Senate for one reason or another. 4. Obamacare in its entirely was "sold" on lies. From the promise to keep your doctor to claims insurance rates would go down, not up -- to hiding that the legislation was in fact a tax until of course it was necessary to argue it was a tax to save the legislation at the Supreme Court. Government bureaucrats promising an expansion of care knowing care under Obamacare would be limited, etc. Hell, even the official name for Obamacare, "The Affordable Care Act," is a lie. Obamacare isn't affordable. 5. The process through which Obamacare was shoved through and down the throats of the American people happened as a result of Harry Reid changing Senate rules and without the support of voters. The legislation didn't receive a single Republican vote in the House or the Senate. Also, remember this?
Nancy Pelosi - What she is willing to do to pass Healthcare
Or this?
"Absolutely not a tax increase."
Obama in 2009: "Absolutely Not a Tax Increase"
Obamacare is a sham and the American people have been lied to and deceived every step of the way. Further, Obamacare has never been popular with the American people. Not when it passed and not now. It should also be noted that since before Obamacare was passed conservatives have been rightly screaming about its true contents and impact on American families and the economy. They've been right all along and were called racists for sounding the alarm.
Overall, a lack of transparency has been key to the Obama administration's existence on a whole range of topics, which is why it is one of the least transparent administrations in history despite President Obama's promises.
Second, for leftest, the ends always justifies the means. That's why leftest have little problem eventually killing people for their greater “good”.
Silly people. You actually think last week’s election MEANT something.
You’ve just handed the moderate wing of the Uniparty the keys to the treasure chest, and nothing more. They’ll be too busy voting themselves new largesse from the public treasury to care anything about you.
Silly, silly people.
That should be done especially in the communities like New Orleans, LA, where a race is still active.
Also, voters in North Carolina (Hagan) and Arkansas (Prior) should have their votes against Hagan, for instance, validated by the admission of this architect of the dishonesty called Obamacare and the future ills it continues to threaten for ordinary American citizens.
An MIT professor so full of himself - or stupid - that he brags about tricking the American people? What an assh*le.... He’s as smart as he thinks he is... we’re all in on what a jerk he is now... I’ll bet his wife would leave him if she should someone who made the same money...
The Townhall.com is the source which goes directly to the article link
Next time stay out of stuff you don't have no clue of!!!
GOT IT?
Democrats lie all the time.
And they wonder why Americans don’t have any trust in government and why people like me don’t bother to vote.
I mean the behavior of our political elites has bred not confidence in our leaders and belief they will do what is right for the country; its bred low regard for them paired with the perception that no matter what the people want or don’t want our leaders will do what is best for their own interests.
The Democrats haven’t learned from their massive defeat and Republicans need to keep that in mind or they will suffer the same fate as the Democrats in the next election. The American people are not stupid and don’t like being made fools of.
Of course they do. Lying comes natural to them
I just wonder if he has a food taster and someone to start his car now that he’s outed himself?
It wouldn’t surprise me if he did
And how many lost jobs? How many now have part time jobs? How many businesses closed.?
How much suffering is going on?
And the dems just laugh.
Our country has suffered stress and pain ever since O and ried and pelosi and boener took charge. And now even with a win the rhinos are still in charge.
Thankfully this is God’s country and it is God they are trying to bring down. I for one am comfortable in His hands no matter what happens.
I think FWIW that CJ Roberts was blackmailed. His two boys were adopted from overseas, and someone just called him up and threatened official action to take them away and repatriate them.
Gruber, grubber — great etymology, and emblematic, too.
Scum, all of them.
They aren’t. See Howell Raines’s Oct. 2008 article in Conde Nast’s “Portfolio”, which foretold the passage of a *national* healthcare law on a handshake deal at the top of both parties. Boehner has his hands dirty all the way up to his armpits.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
So in the absence of constitutionally explicit power to regulate intrastate healthcare, Congress cannot make laws which address intrastate healthcare in any way, regardless if such laws establish a tax or a penalty, any more than they can make laws to respect or prohibit religious expression, such laws expressly prohibited by the 1st Amendment.
In fact, note that the Supreme Court had also historically clarified in general, and in terms of the 10th Amendment, that powers not expressly granted to the feds via the Constitution by the states, the power to regulate intrastate healthcare in this example, are prohibited to the feds.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Interestingly, note that a former member of Congress had repeatedly introduced a resolution for Congress to propose an intrastate healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states in compliance with the Constitution’s Article V. The member had done so long before (and after) Speaker Nancy Pelosi hypocritically ignored her oath to protect and defend the Constitution by irresponsibly ramming Democratcare through the House of Representatives, Pelosi evidently ignoring the resolution.
"Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States regarding the right of citizens of the United States to health care of equal high quality." —H. J. Res. 30.
Finally, I don’t call voters stupid since corrupt Democrats intentionally deceived the voters imo. But did Mr. Gruber stupidly make himself an accessory to treason by helping Democrats to deceive the voters?
More to my last, the Chamber, Business Roundtable, and business generally, all want employee healthcare to go away — permanently, and the Dems to get the blame. Some people think they threw the 2008 and even the 2012 elections, to make sure the ‘Rats got it done.
Every single last one of 'em, including all cabinet members, anyone in the House & Senate who voted for it, and those USSC members who illegally expanded the Court's constitutional responsibility to transform the bill into a "tax" and force it on the American people.
Every single one of em should be tarred, feathered and hung by their necks. That would be justice.
we could call it “The day of the rope”
That is an acceptable alternative if done with large numbers, at least once a week.
Medieval style racking would be even better.
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