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To: kabar

Here we go....It is disingenuous for this country to “send them all back”, when for whatever reason, we LET them in for decades. Plus mass deportation wont work.

Seal the border.
Deport the criminals.
Give those working a work visa.

AND CUT OFF WELFARE AND MEDICAL CARE AND MILLIONS WILL SELF-DEPORT!


132 posted on 11/09/2014 11:02:44 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Bush won the War in Iraq, Obozo lost the peace..and gave Iraq back to the Terrorists!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; All
very proper done..and no anchor babies (limit to 12th b'day)/clarify the 14th Adm't.

134 posted on 11/09/2014 11:13:23 AM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Obama STINKS and his best friends are flies." d8^)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Here we go....It is disingenuous for this country to “send them all back”, when for whatever reason, we LET them in for decades. Plus mass deportation wont work.

You seem to be buying into the liberal, pro-amnesty crap. The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Arizona proving that it does.

Seal the border. Deport the criminals. Give those working a work visa.

Secure the border, yes, but 40% of the illegals got here legally and overstayed their visa. We need better interior enforcement.

Who defines who is a criminal and what offenses warrant deportation? The Obama administration claims that this is their policy now. The overwhelming majority of the lawbreakers have committed multiple crimes. Do we deport those who used bogus or stolen SSNs? those who are guilty of tax evasion? Here are some laws most have violated that are felonies:

False Personation of a U.S. Citizen (18 U.S.C. § 911). Illegal aliens often present themselves as U.S. citizens, an act punishable by up to five years in jail, a felony. This law is often cited in immigration prosecutions and may involve, for example, an alien claiming U.S. citizenship to his employer.

Fraud and False Statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001). It is common for illegal aliens to make false statements to the government or on official documents. An illegal alien violates this law when claiming to be a U.S. citizen on an I-9 Employment Eligibility form and faces a fine and up to five years imprisonment.

Social Security Fraud (42 U.S.C. § 408). This statute has been invoked where an illegal alien provided a false Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a job, where an illegal alien used a fraudulent Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a driver's license, and when an illegal alien used a Social Security card belonging to a citizen in order to obtain Section 8 housing, for example. Violation of this statute can result in a fine and/or imprisonment up to five years. The court can also require violators to provide restitution to the victims.

Why must we issue them work permits that allow them to compete legally against US workers? Why should the lawbreakers be allowed to stay and work here, the object of their crime? How fair is it to the 4 million intending legal immigrants waiting their turn overseas to enter this country having filled out the paperwork and paid the various administrative fees? What kind of message does this send to others wanting to enter this country? Get here and eventually you will be legalized? When you reward something, you get more of it.

AND CUT OFF WELFARE AND MEDICAL CARE AND MILLIONS WILL SELF-DEPORT!

They are not entitled to welfare now except thru their US born children. And they can't be turned away for medical treatment at our ERs. And do you allow those who you want to legalize thru a work permit to avail themselves of Obamacare subsidies? Will they be subject to the individual mandate? Most of them will probably qualify for Medicaid.

I see no urgency to legalize the lawbreakers. They are already here. Why reward them?

137 posted on 11/09/2014 11:52:37 AM PST by kabar
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