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To: WhiskeyX; All
Yanokovitch was democratically elected President in 2010 to a four year term. His last official act on Feb. 21 2014 was to sign a negotiated power-sharing agreement with the opposition leadership that included a time-table to reform the Ukrainian Constitution and hold new elections.

This negotiated agreement was also signed by all three opposition leaders and witnessed by the foreign ministers of France, Poland, and Germany as well as a special representative from the Russian Federation, all of whom recognized Yanokovich as the lawful President of Ukraine acting in his official capacity at the time.

Hours after signing that internationally notarized power-sharing agreement Yanokovitch was accosted by an armed mob of Maidan radicals as he tried to leave the capital to attend a planned gathering of his political Party of Regions members in Kharkov.

These same armed radicals took over the Parliament building and other government Ministry offices, threatened and assaulted elected members of Parliament, and attempted to force an impeachment vote which ultimately failed to attract the constitutionally required number to impeach the President.

The entire Yanokovitch government was subsequently removed from power through a series of extra-constitutional parliamentary maneuvers while armed radicals 'guarded' the building. Fearing for their well being as well as his own, the President took his family over the border to Rostov on Don, Russia.

Now you can try to spin that sequence of events any way your liberal interventionist heart desires, but it still amounts to a 'violent overthrow of a democratically elected president'.

69 posted on 11/08/2014 6:50:36 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
These same armed radicals took over the Parliament building and other government Ministry offices, threatened and assaulted elected members of Parliament, and attempted to force an impeachment vote which ultimately failed to attract the constitutionally required number to impeach the President.

That's a load of crap, Putinist troll. Actually, Parliament took up impeachment as a solution to Yanukovych fleeing the country. It was not the result of "armed" people taking over the Ukrainian Rada and holding everyone at gunpoint. Nor was there ever anyone holding the Rada at gunpoint, even afterwards.

You filthy buggers never cease in spreading constant disinformation on behalf of your masters in Ukraine. You rely on making big lies, and then repeating them often.

76 posted on 11/08/2014 10:39:20 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: WhiskeyX; mac_truck; Admin Moderator
Now you can try to spin that sequence of events any way your liberal interventionist heart desires

And you literally reversed the sequence of events, making Yanukovych flee after the impeachment, rather than before anything was even going on, thus making impeachment necessary.

I will also add, on top of my last reply to you, the fact that Yanukovych's government was falling apart after the mass shootings against Ukrainians. Yanukovych did not flee because he was ever assaulted by anybody walking around in the capital. He fled because 100 people had been murdered by the Russian trained members of the SBU (who also fled with him), and everyone turned against him, even the members of his own Russian controlled party.

The mods need to seriously consider zotting the Putinistas off this forum. Their lies are rampant and unforgivable.

77 posted on 11/08/2014 10:45:04 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: mac_truck
This negotiated agreement was also signed by all three opposition leaders and witnessed by the foreign ministers of France, Poland, and Germany as well as a special representative from the Russian Federation, all of whom recognized Yanokovich as the lawful President of Ukraine acting in his official capacity at the time.

The negotiated agreement called for early elections. Early elections occurred.

The current lawful president of Ukraine is NOT Yanukovich, it's Porschenko.

85 posted on 11/08/2014 3:25:54 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: mac_truck

“{Yanokovitch was democratically elected President in 2010 to a four year term.”

Maybe he was, and maybe not; more than likely he was not, “democratically elected President in 2010,” because of the same kind of vote fraud committed ten years earlier. Remember, he had to resign his office then too because of the illegalities of his election and misconduct in office.

“His last official act on Feb. 21 2014 was to sign a negotiated power-sharing agreement with the opposition leadership that included a time-table to reform the Ukrainian Constitution and hold new elections.
This negotiated agreement was also signed by all three opposition leaders and witnessed by the foreign ministers of France, Poland, and Germany as well as a special representative from the Russian Federation, all of whom recognized Yanokovich as the lawful President of Ukraine acting in his official capacity at the time.”

No, “His last official act on Feb. 21 2014 was to” tender his verbal resignation from the Office of the President to members of the Verkhona Rada (Ukrainian parliament). Yanukovich then proceeded to flee Kiev and the potential arrest and prosecution for his role in the kidnapping, torture, and murder of political and journalist opponents; and he retracted his verbal resignation by falsely claiming he did not resign and fleeing Kiev to avoid appearing before the Verkhona Rada to formally acknowledge his resignation. Subsequently, Yanukovych claimed to perform a number of official acts in his pretended official capacity as President. These later pretended official acts included sending a formal letter on 1 March 2014 to Vladimir Putin requesting the Russian armed forces to intervene in the Ukraine against the Ukrainian armed forces, which was making war upon the Ukraine and an act of treason. So, no matter how you attempt to spin your half truths and falsehoods about the events, Yanukovich and his opponents are in agreement that his last official act was certainly not the “negotiated power-sharing agreement” of 21 February 2014.

“Hours after signing that internationally notarized power-sharing agreement Yanokovitch was accosted by an armed mob of Maidan radicals as he tried to leave the capital to attend a planned gathering of his political Party of Regions members in Kharkov.”

There is no such evidence of Yanukovich being personally attacked by anyone, because he was very well protected by his bodyguards, especially his Russian bodyguards who arranged for him to flee to Russia.

“These same armed radicals took over the Parliament building and other government Ministry offices, threatened and assaulted elected members of Parliament, and attempted to force an impeachment vote which ultimately failed to attract the constitutionally required number to impeach the President.”

On the contrary, Yanukovych with the direction and assistance of Russian intelligence agents serving in the Ukrainian leadership positions used the Communist Party and Party of Regions to unlawfully overthrow the rule of law in the Verkhona Rada by pretending to pass legislation described as the “Dictatorship laws” by excluding all opposition Members of Parliament from the voting with unlawful parliamentary procedures (i.e. vote fraud).

When those extremist efforts to violently suppress the elected members of the parliament and their supporters among the protestors, Yanukovych and his Russian intelligence agents increased the use of deadly force, kidnappings, torture, and murder to suppress dissent to his unlawful acts and mass killings.

The impeachment vote did not occur until after Yanukovych had already verbally resigned and abandoned his office as president, fled arrest and prosecution for his crimes and mass killings, denied his resignation as President, and fled into Russia. So, Yanukovych was fleeing arrest and prosecution by the remnants of his own caretaker government for his multitude of criminal acts and not the Euromaidan protestors demanding he be held accountable for those criminal acts.

“The entire Yanokovitch government was subsequently removed from power through a series of extra-constitutional parliamentary maneuvers while armed radicals ‘guarded’ the building.”

Here you lie yet again, because it was Yanukovych and his Russian intelligence agents in the Ukrainian Government who used the Communist Party and the Party of Regions to engage in “a series of extra-constitutional parliamentary maneuvers while armed radicals ‘guarded’ the Yanukovych administration” as the Communist and Party of Regions attempted to violently attack, disrupt, suppress, and disperse all political opponents on the Euromaidan and elsewhere using the “Dictatorship laws” and other pretenses.

“Fearing for their well being as well as his own, the President took his family over the border to Rostov on Don, Russia.”

Fearing arrest and prosecution for his crimes and the crimes of his son, Yanukovych was conducted into Russia by his Russian intelligence bodyguards.

“Now you can try to spin that sequence of events any way your liberal interventionist heart desires, but it still amounts to a ‘violent overthrow of a democratically elected president’.”

On the contrary, it was Yanukovych and his Russian intelligence sponsors who perpetrated the illegal and “violent” overthrow of the legitimate Verkhona Rada and Ukrainian constitution; until the citizens and opposition members of parliament peacefully and then defensively when needed put their own life, liberty, and limb at risk to restore the rule of law which Yanukovych, the Communists, the Party of Regions, and the Russian intelligence services had systematically been destroying in the Ukraine with brutal armed force.


94 posted on 11/09/2014 7:54:03 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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