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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m saying that as a platform its a looser there were far more.issues at play than that. It’s not a campaign winner and conservatives shouldn’t be raising it at this time. You must convince and persuade people it is wrong. Put up hurdles. Wisdom shows outright bans don’t work and make small government advocates look like.large government advocates.


23 posted on 11/05/2014 1:12:45 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; trisham
"You must convince and persuade people it is wrong."

You mean --- talk abut it in public? Lecture? Make videos? Put it in TV ads? Put out printed literature? Why, I've run into that before. That sounds like.... a political campaign!

That's what campaigning for a pro-life candidate or ballot item is all about. Political campaigns are the most intensive public forms of "convincing people" currently in play in the United States. That's why we do it.

" Wisdom shows outright bans don’t work." Absolutely non-factual . Wisdom --- that means, actual experience --- shows that ouyright bans work better than anything else. Where abortion has been banned except in all but the most exceptional cases --- as in the recent history of the Republic of Ireland, Poland, New Zealand --- abortion is comparatively rare. (

(Comparison: The UK has an age-standardized abortion rate was 15.9 per 1,000 resident women aged 15-44. By contrast, the Republic of Ireland rate is 4.5. And Ireland has a significantly LOWER rate of childbirth-related morbidity and mortality than the UK. Ireland has some of the best maternal health outcomes in the world.)

In the USA, the abortion rate shot up with the introduction of legal abortion in 1973. Lie Dynamics, which has analyzed the statistics by various factors --- age, income, marital status, level of education, race, religion, etc. etc. ---- has shown that the single most significant factor in increasing the abortion rate is: zip code. If there is an abortion clinic in your zip code or within a 10-mile radius, that increases the abortion rate more than any other factor. Both abortion, and out-of-wedlock births decline the farther you are from an abortion clinic.

Interesting, eh?

In other words, the demand for abortion is what economists call "elastic." If abortion is not easily, readily available, most women won't risk an out-of-wedlock pregnancy.

The availability of legal, cheap, convenient abortion has a huge, and hugely destructive impact on behavior.

It's that "impact on behavior" thing that contraception and legal-abortion advocates don't take into account.

27 posted on 11/05/2014 2:11:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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