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vanity ^ | November 5, 2014 | Nathan Bedford

Posted on 11/05/2014 4:31:54 AM PST by nathanbedford

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1 posted on 11/05/2014 4:31:54 AM PST by nathanbedford
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GOPe strategery: Lie low, don’t make waves, wait for 2016.

Or is that 2018? 2020?


3 posted on 11/05/2014 4:40:25 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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Republicans win in 2016 if they put up a candidate that can excite the base. It doesn’t HAVE to be a perfect conservative. It has to be someone that provides a superior vision and gets everyone motivated to work, donate, campaign and vote. Short list: Walker, Cruz, Pence, Kasich (?).


4 posted on 11/05/2014 4:42:14 AM PST by ilgipper
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Obama will go quietly into the night so as not to rock the boat for the hideous Hildabeast of Arkansas.

Bet the house on it!


5 posted on 11/05/2014 4:44:40 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Crazieman

Exactly.

Move on behalf of AMERICA.

Bring back jobs. Close our borders, and enact real control of our immigration.

America was a great country 25 years ago.

Bring it back.


6 posted on 11/05/2014 4:44:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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We can get a glimpse of the GOP’s intentions here in VA. Do they let the Rats continue to profit from fraud and deceit? Or do they insist on integrity?


7 posted on 11/05/2014 4:45:38 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ilgipper
Conservatives in SW Missouri insisted on a “perfect conservative.”
They helped elect Claire McCackle.
8 posted on 11/05/2014 4:48:51 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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And remember, Alinsky wasn’t in it for the end game, himself. He just developed a shake down technique a la Frank Nitty. His technique just was not as blatantly illegal as Nitty’s. Think Jesse Jackson. There is no money to shake down if the “goals” are ever actually achieved.


9 posted on 11/05/2014 4:49:11 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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My heart belongs Ted Cruz but my head tells me that my heart would not be broken over a candidacy by Governor Walker.

He is conservative enough, he clearly has a backbone, he is photogenic, he does not make mistakes on the stump, he governs as he campaigns. More, he has not been nationally tainted as a radical right-winger as has, unfortunately, Ted Cruz. Walker stands in better odor with independents and has the advantage of running as a governor rather than as a senator and his record is one in which both conservatives and Rinos can find satisfaction.

If I were able to anoint, however, I would dab Ted Cruz's forehead with oil.


10 posted on 11/05/2014 4:50:21 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Nice job. I particularly liked the quote “...so that they retain support of The Tea Party and Rino wings of the party.”

At some point both sides (and I mean both, not just one side) should realize that the other side might have a point and start working from there.


11 posted on 11/05/2014 4:51:50 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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Good post, but I think you should re-examine the potential dynamics of ObamaCare over the next two years. This was never something that Obama actually pushed on his own. It should really be called "PelosiReidCare" because it was born and bred in the Democrat-controlled Congress -- and Obama would have signed anything they put in front of him even if it included provisions requiring HHS to set up train depots to load black welfare recipients onto boxcars for transportation to death camps.

I don't think Obama would fight very hard to defend ObamaCare except for political reasons. Heck, he has already capitulated to almost every Republican objection on his own through questionable executive orders delaying various provisions of it.

12 posted on 11/05/2014 4:52:04 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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Name a couple of RINO points we should support.


13 posted on 11/05/2014 4:52:52 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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With regard to the 'dilemma for the Republicans', I say bring on Majority Leader Cruz!

He had Nineteen, on September 27, 2013, who joined him in refusing Harry Reid's cloture vote on the spending bill. This was the vote that McConnell & McCain said would 'lose the Senate in 2014' [wrong Mitch] and what prompted him and the gOpE to declare open war on the Tea Party movement and conservatism.

Sure, Senator Cruz will lose a few of these (Roberts, Portman, Paul(?)) nineteen to the Mitch Establishment. But he also gains another nine possible (Sullivan, Cotton, Gardner, Ernst, Daines, Sasse, Lankford, Rounds, Capito) to make a very formidible 25 or so coalition to challenge for the Majority Leader spot and setting the agenda to roll back what the Dem socialists have inflicted upon the Country.

14 posted on 11/05/2014 4:57:30 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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I would not be opposed to Walker, Cruz, Palin, or even West.

Lukewarm on Rand Paul.

Hell no on Jeb, Christie, Romney.


15 posted on 11/05/2014 4:59:14 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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Bump


16 posted on 11/05/2014 5:04:08 AM PST by moovova
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The Democrats must recognize that Obama is a potentially alien force within their ranks governing against their individual and party fortunes as Democrats.

I assume you are referring to elected Democrats in your first point. If so, I disagree. I think the Rats have been totally highjacked by far left liberals. They are great company for Obama. The Blue Dogs are extinct. Manchin might be the only semi-moderate Rat left in D.C.

Regarding your second point, Obama goes govern against Rat fortunes, but he has plenty of allies or he wouldn't have gotten this far. There's only so much you can do unilaterally and now that the GOP has a clear mandate, they can cut him off at the knees by refusing funding for his hare brained schemes and I truly hope they do.

After 2010 and last night, I am more convinced than ever that Obama, the persona, was the reason why the Rats won in 2008 and 2012. It had nothing to do with their policies, even though they think it did. That concept heartens me and bodes well for 2016 when the slate will be wiped clean.

17 posted on 11/05/2014 5:05:23 AM PST by randita ("Is a nation without borders a nation?"...Noonan)
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I would lay out the big challenge the GOP faces in 2016 this way:

Think of an effective presidential candidate as someone who can generate support among voters in three key areas:

1. Executive Leadership
2. Political Philosophy
3. Personality

The problem the Republican Party has faced since 2008 -- and it will come up again in 2016 -- is that there is a different potential candidate who grades out best in each of these areas. And none of them are very strong in more than one. My take right now is that the top contender in each of these areas is:

1. Executive Leadership -- Mitt Romney
2. Political Philosophy -- Ted Cruz
3. Personality -- Chris Christie

The challenge for the GOP is to find someone who is very strong in one area, reasonably acceptable in another, and can diminish his/her weaknesses in the third.

I would also point out that the Democrats have a much easier approach to selecting presidential candidates because in every election it seems like they are willing to completely ignore one of these three elements entirely. Barack Obama was nominated because executive leadership capacity has meant nothing to the Democrats in recent years (and it really shows). Bill Clinton was nominated in 1992 even though nobody knew what his politics were (he had as much direction as a fart in the wind).

18 posted on 11/05/2014 5:15:10 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: randita
My thesis is that even the progressives in the Democrat Party are not immune to the laws of self-preservation. As Jack Kennedy once said, "first you gotta win." I do accept your view that the Democrat party has moved to the left wholesale. I submit that the personal charisma of Barack Obama has to do with race.

Obama is a narcissist, an empty suit who has been advanced beyond his capabilities because of the color of his skin. All his life Obama has been reinforced in the belief that race is the matrix upon which everything should be judged, including his own performance.

I do not expect him to depart from this worldview but I do expect some Democrats to desert as they find the race card no longer trumps.


19 posted on 11/05/2014 5:21:44 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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The Republicans won the seats but the Democrats will still control at a lower level so long as McConnell and Boehner and McCarthy are still in position.


20 posted on 11/05/2014 5:38:00 AM PST by arthurus
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