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Why You Shouldn’t Vote
Townhall.com ^ | November 2, 2014 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 11/02/2014 5:33:59 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: muir_redwoods; Jim Robinson; Norm Lenhart; All
Go away troll, go back to dummy underground

Is that all the argument you have? Norm is not a troll, and neither am I. Hey, muir, how much have YOU donated to Free Republic over the years? Who the hell are YOU to call Norm, and by implication, yours truly, "troll" from "dummy underground" because we refuse the vote for the functional amoral Democrats-in-Republican-Jerseys that YOU are so desperate to legitimize on a conservative political forum?

You cannot defend your position, so you have to resort to "troll" and "dummy underground" junk.

Please -- if you're going to vote for functional Democrats, make sure they're in the Democrat party and STOP giving them aid and comfort on the Republican dime.

You can vote yourself into tyranny if you think that's smart. Norm, I, and quite a few other OLDER and WELL EXPERIENCED folks who've been doing it your way already for ages, have finally woken up.

You are still slumbering ... unfortunately, you are also spewing "troll" and "dummy underground" garbage as you talk in your sleep.

WAKE THE HELL UP.

661 posted on 11/03/2014 9:13:16 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: MaxMax; All; Kozak
A Conservative in the WH will change both houses and the Republican party.

A Liberal Republican in the WH will also change -- as in, damage irrevocably -- both houses and the Republican party.

You labor under the mistake of thinking that you're advocating, "Don't vote for the other guy."

But that is a lie. What you are REALLY advocating is, "Vote for the leftist Republican."

Failing to own up to that TRUTH is how we got to this point in the first place. I speak from experience -- it is entirely possible that I have voted for more leftist Republicans than you have, using the same flawed rationale as you. I have voted straight Republican party ticket in California for close to 40 years.

There is so much self-deception and LYING going on when "conservatives" urge smart people to ignore the warning signs and vote stupid.

662 posted on 11/03/2014 9:22:02 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Kozak

Amnesty.
Funding socialist health care 3 times
Refusing to defend marriage...
Refusing to prosecute the Dems for Bhenghazi, FF, The IRS...
Supporting Arch liberal Mitt Romney for president
Refusal to fight Reid on anything.

Yup. the most conservative congress EVAH!

Again, thank you for saving us all any more time spent arguing with you. Because it’s clear you inhabit a far different reality than the rest of us. Just needed to get the actual facts of this congress out there.


663 posted on 11/03/2014 9:26:56 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Finny

Its all they have. Look at the entire thread. Duck, dodge, ignore and call names to do it all.

So far we have about 5 people unfamiliar with gradeschool civics, a couple unrepentant liars that can’t admit it when caught cold and a number of people, faced with hard facts determined to bull ahead with liberal voting ‘no matter what’.

This is the face of the conservative movement today and it is the very reason the libs are in charge.


664 posted on 11/03/2014 9:30:56 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Kozak; All
Yep, Norm -- these people are, once again, frightened out of their wits and delusional.

Kozak and all the rest of self-described "conservatives" who will let pure fear manipulate them into voting for the very things they oppose, are ... delusional.

Kozak, WAKE THE HELL UP.

665 posted on 11/03/2014 9:33:10 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Normy, how dense are you? I’d say Neutron Star dense.

There’s been no amnesty ( there was one in 87)
Not a single Republican vote for Zero Care.
Romney, won the nomination of the party, you know votes and stuff ( I didn’t like it, but it was a fact).
To “prosecute” for Benghazi etc we need the Senate too. Reid hasn’t put up a budget, or tried to pass ANY legislation because..... Conservatives will fight him on it.

Reality Normy. You should try it. I know it’s less comfortable then your fantasy world but it actually matters.


666 posted on 11/03/2014 9:37:19 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Finny

Some are putting the yellow shirt on. Others are GOP plants reading a script. Must be. They all say the same things.

Look on the bright side. When they get what they work for and the country collapses due to their liberal support...remember they are ALSO this way in real life. Their neighbors likely don’t trust them either. And they will be very, very alone when the feral libs come calling.

Bummer.


667 posted on 11/03/2014 9:39:38 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Kozak

Cool story bro. Doesn’t refute anything I posted. Half of it is complete crap too.


668 posted on 11/03/2014 9:42:08 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Stats. Facts
Truth. Deal with it.


669 posted on 11/03/2014 9:47:06 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak; Norm Lenhart; All
Truth. Deal with it.

Man, the irony is so thick you could spread it on toast! {^)

This, from a guy who refuses to deal with the TRUE FACT that he is advocating that freedom-loving Americans vote for Republicans who will create more and bigger government on the same template as the Democrats.

Kozak needs to think that doing so is voting "against" the Democrats. Hey, I used to buy into exactly the same foolish rationale, so for me to call Kozak names or speak down to him as if he was a child or to call him a "troll" or other stuff that HE regularly does with those who used to agree with him but who now have figured out what he has yet to discern ... well, that would be kind of bad because I used to think the same way as Kozak.

So while Kozak is comfortable with insulting thee and me, Norm, and the rest of us FReepers (about 35 percent as far as I can tell, on this thread anyway) who have finally recognized the futility of voting "against" Democrats by voting for functional Democrat Republicans, I understand that Kozak is not childish, stupid, silly, or ignorant.

He is just frightened out of his wits into taking ridiculously stupid loser gambles, the same kind of fear that made me vote for Meg Whitman -- a vote I regret because I'd have regretted it if she'd won. Fear surrendered to makes people do stupid things. ALWAYS HAS, ALWAYS WILL.

Kozak and the rest of you, overcome your fear and replace it with courage to face the truth -- then and ONLY then, Kozak, will your vote be smart. Right now, it's just panicked and stupid.

670 posted on 11/03/2014 10:00:46 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Kozak

Your ‘stats’ ignore the ‘facts and truth I posted that we discuss every day here. If you and others wish to ignore them, thats on you.


671 posted on 11/03/2014 10:01:11 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Finny

Some facts he/they wish to ignore include the founders warning us about doing exactly what the fear brigade demand. Namely Groupthink voting and voting on fear vs. voting on principle.

they ‘feel’ they are smarter than the founders because they advocate ignoring them and subverting the system they established. Now who does that? Not conservatives. But liberals, DO.


672 posted on 11/03/2014 10:08:02 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Kozak
I ADMIT though ... Kozak, I DID level an insult at you in an earlier post, where I called you a "moron." I stand by that, incidentally, because I was referring to your being a mathematical moron.

Only a mathematical moron will spin a 1 out of a zero, as in, "If you don't vote or if you vote third party, it's the same as voting for the Democrat." That truly IS moronic. Mathematically and spiritually.

673 posted on 11/03/2014 10:12:11 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Kozak

Hmm, didn’t read the entire articel, did you???


674 posted on 11/03/2014 10:12:32 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Finny

“This, from a guy who refuses to deal with the TRUE FACT that he is advocating that freedom-loving Americans vote for Republicans who will create more and bigger government on the same template as the Democrats.”

You seem confused over the meaning of the term “fact”.


675 posted on 11/03/2014 10:26:33 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kaslin; All
In other related news...

Mainstream GOP sees tipping point vs. insurgent candidates (Tea Party Are Losers)

676 posted on 11/03/2014 10:27:39 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: jda

Yeah I did. It’s sarcasm. something that escapes many here.


677 posted on 11/03/2014 10:28:13 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak

Says the guy pretending the GOP didn’t stand silent while Obama EOd Amnesty with tens of thousands of illegals now spread across America.


678 posted on 11/03/2014 10:33:08 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Finny

Well Finny, you are a practical moron.
See people win elections by having a net majority of votes.
If you don’t vote, or throw away your vote on a fringe third party candidate, you HELP elect the Democrat by not canceling out the vote of a Democratic voter. Or is the math too hard for you?
See how that works in the real world? The one where elections are decided? Why do you think the Rats prop up Libertarians in close races?


679 posted on 11/03/2014 10:35:48 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kozak

We are still wondering why you prop up liberals in Republican races.


680 posted on 11/03/2014 10:36:40 AM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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