Posted on 10/31/2014 6:19:20 AM PDT by Enlightened1
This sentence makes no sense. If the Republicans controlled both the House & Senate, wouldn't they simply pass a budget?
If Rebublicans take the congress and senate no need to impeach Obama it would far more fun to chip away at every one of his laws and grin as he has to eat $hit for the next two years.
Eligibility to hold a political office is unlike procedural errors in the conduct and certification of an election. General procedural errors are merged in the certified result--ineligibility to hold the office is a bar to action in the office.
The actions in office of an individual who moves into the office who is not eligible to hold the office are void--he doesn't hold the office.
Same for impeachment. He doesn't hold the office, therefore he cannot be impeached.
He was born outside the United States under circumstances which did not result in his citizenship at birth. Therefore, whatever the Court might hold Natural Born Citizenship might mean, Barry doesn't have it because he was not a citizen at all.
Therefore ineligible; therefore impeachment barred.
The correct procedure for eviction? Convene a joint session of Congress; reopen the Certification proceedings for the 2008 and 2012 elections; appoint a joint Judiciary Committee of the House and Senate to report back to the Joint Session on Barry's eligibility at a date certain; report that he was not eligible; and reverse the certificate of his election under the twentieth amendment.
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"There is an absolute bar to impeachment of Barry. Eligibility to hold a political office is unlike procedural errors in the conduct and certification of an election. General procedural errors are merged in the certified result--ineligibility to hold the office is a bar to action in the office.
"The actions in office of an individual who moves into the office who is not eligible to hold the office are void--he doesn't hold the office.
"Same for impeachment. He doesn't hold the office, therefore he cannot be impeached.
"He was born outside the United States under circumstances which did not result in his citizenship at birth. Therefore, whatever the Court might hold Natural Born Citizenship might mean, Barry doesn't have it because he was not a citizen at all.
"Therefore ineligible; therefore impeachment barred.
"The correct procedure for eviction? Convene a joint session of Congress; reopen the Certification proceedings for the 2008 and 2012 elections; appoint a joint Judiciary Committee of the House and Senate to report back to the Joint Session on Barry's eligibility at a date certain; report that he was not eligible; and reverse the certificate of his election under the twentieth amendment."
Thanks, David.
Sad isn't it? The Republican leadership has no b###s.
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Has anyone tried this approach?
This could back fire; some will take notice and say hell yeah, why NOT impeach him ? I’ll go vote now.
I’d like to see someone take he and his wife out of OUR White House in handcuffs.
Maybe not, but they sure have nice fat NSA files!
If congress accepted impeachment proceedings, would that be tantamount to declaring he is legally president?
Constitutional Eligibility
But what if someone DID bring up impeachment hearings.....
if impeachment did not apply, would not that point come out in those proceedings... ?
I.E. questions would come up as to why it didn’t apply?
Impeach Baraq to get SlowJoe as replacement?
Even Republicans aren’t that dumb LOL.
high crimes and misdemeanors.....
“He was born outside the United States under circumstances which did not result in his citizenship at birth.”
LucyT:
IIRC Federal Judge Carter in 2009 stated in dicta in Orly’s case that if a foreign certified BC was presented in his court he would give deference to any US state certified BC, such as (he assumed) Barry’s HI BC to be. This is what the Federal Rules of Evidence require, IIRC.
For David’s totally hypothetical to hold, the HI BC for Barry and Barry’s identity associated with that BC would have to be impeached in federal court, I would expect, or in some House and/or Senate equivalent procedure.
Only then would a foreign BC and identity for Barry be allowed to overturn the HI BC and identity and threaten Barry’s presidency. Mind you, IANAL!
this just tells me he knows 0bama should be impeached
for us, if we harbor or protect a felon... we get charged with aiding and abetting.
Sounds good to me.
What HI BC? A picture on internet?
These judges and SOS’s are a fckn joke.
And that my FRiend is NOT a nut job conspiracy.
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I am beginning to think impeachment will never happen as it is a political process and Republicans would not want to make the First Black President a martyr. Also it will take a while for it to gin up and there will be little time left in Obama’s presidency.
However if things are bad enough ...some Dems might push him out the door.
Also I wonder if any real BC controversy should be used to strip powers away from Obama so that he cannot act unilaterally.
Judge Carter’s 2009 ruling was made way prior to Barry’s 2012 disclosure of his forged BC pdf at the WH and would have been based on the earlier database printout HI BC.
The learned Judge Carter was speaking hypothetically in dicta in the event that a certified HI BC were to be presented in evidence in his courtroom alongside a certified foreign BC.
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