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To: palmer
In the long run, who knows? Once I posted here (2008 primaries) a "we need to do something to stop Romney" message. I was told that we needed to pray. It was frustrating, but correct. Obviously we can do small things like voting for Tweedledee instead of Tweedledum, but that is not a real choice.

Reality is what it is; it is not what we wish it were. Romney was the only choice last time, other than Obama. To avoid "choosing" Romney resulted in choosing Obama by default.


One possible alternative is to let the Republican party implode into its country club core leaving room for a third party. The system will make that difficult and the evil party will get a better foothold in the meantime. But that would be worth it.

This is the main difference in our opinions: I don't believe we have the time left for any kind of a long term. The evil party already has vastly, vastly more than a foothold. They have captured every major institution in society — education, government, the judiciary, regulatory agencies, the media and quite a number of liberalized churches and foundations — except for selected islands of churches that are "clinging" to the apostolic faith, which the left is now busily trying to outlaw and make illegal. They are trying to eliminate the Bill of Rights, natural procreational rights, any vestige of privacy in communications or finance, paper money, citizenship, national borders and sovereignty, and are making laws and regulations faster than any human can keep up with, making all of us potentially criminals in some way at all times. They have militarized police, built "containment" encampments, bought up 300 rounds of ammunition for every man, woman and child in the nation, have inserted illegals and plague-diseased persons in our midst, taxed the economics of private homeownership so heavily that we might as well just rent properties, and are homosexualizing the classrooms, the boardrooms and the military. Where is the long-term that you see here?

217 posted on 10/31/2014 8:20:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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To: Albion Wilde
To avoid "choosing" Romney resulted in choosing Obama by default.

Sorry, I was not clear. I was posting during the primaries to try to get donations and other support for republican alternatives to Romney (almost anyone was better at that point).

They have militarized police, built "containment" encampments, bought up 300 rounds of ammunition for every man, woman and child in the nation, have inserted illegals and plague-diseased persons in our midst,

All true and mostly supported by the lessers of two evils that we went out and voted for. The root of the problem is immorality (gimme class) feeding amorality (large government). Can't be trimmed or managed. We simply need to stand up for moral principles including small government and patiently wait for people to join. If there's a collapse in the meantime, so be it.

Where is the long-term that you see here?

Looking at your list, the long term is everything that is not on your list. Church, family, well-run local government, safe communities or rural areas.

220 posted on 10/31/2014 8:42:21 AM PDT by palmer (Thank you for your patience.)
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