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To: palmer
The only reason to vote for the lesser of two evils is delay. But delay won't save this great country. Perhaps there is some truth to the idea that the sooner we reach the bottom the more pieces we will have left to recreate Christian America.

The only way to recreate a Christian America is to convert the vast majority of Americans to an actual surrendered belief in the gospels and to Jesus as their Savior, as you can't be born a Christian. The nation was founded by people who were professing and practicing Christians, and whether or not each of the Founders was so, all of them were at the very least Deists who accepted JudeoChristian social norms. Today, those social norms are not even practiced by the majority of nominal Christians.

Make no mistake; I am totally in favor of reinvigorating a society based on Christian principles, which in turn gives way for others to live here unmolested without forcing unbelievers to adopt the Christian religion as their own; and more importantly, builds support for people with those principles to take public office and run our institutions.

But holding one's breath and refusing to participate in a flawed human election process until a large-scale Christian reawakening happens, as the rigid purists vow to do, will do the opposite of helping it to happen.

214 posted on 10/31/2014 6:25:32 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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To: Albion Wilde
But holding one's breath and refusing to participate in a flawed human election process until a large-scale Christian reawakening happens, as the rigid purists vow to do, will do the opposite of helping it to happen.

That's true in the short run. In the long run, who knows? Once I posted here (2008 primaries) a "we need to do something to stop Romney" message. I was told that we needed to pray. It was frustrating, but correct. Obviously we can do small things like voting for Tweedledee instead of Tweedledum, but that is not a real choice.

One possible alternative is to let the Republican party implode into its country club core leaving room for a third party. The system will make that difficult and the evil party will get a better foothold in the meantime. But that would be worth it.

215 posted on 10/31/2014 6:35:31 AM PDT by palmer (Thank you for your patience.)
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To: Albion Wilde
But holding one's breath and refusing to participate in a flawed human election process until a large-scale Christian reawakening happens, as the rigid purists vow to do, will do the opposite of helping it to happen.

I agree wholeheartedly with your entire post until this final paragraph. The mantra that you and others on FR seems to be repeating is that if one does not vote Republican in every instance next Tuesday, he/she will not be going to the polls and will stay home and pout.

What you call "rigid purists" could also be FReepers voting as their conscience dictates.

And about "rigid purists" "holding...breath and refusing to participate in a flawed human election process until...", well, you made that up.
219 posted on 10/31/2014 8:36:32 AM PDT by Resettozero
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