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6 Reasons We Need To Help Republicans Take The Senate Even Though They Stink
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2014 | John Hawkins

Posted on 10/28/2014 5:34:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: NewCenturions
For all of you who are too young to remember, let's learn a little bit from history. After Richard Nixon's defeat by John Kennedy in 1960 the GOP party mechanism was in the hands of the Eastern Seaboard Establishment Republicans. In a period of 4 years Conservatives had wrested control of the party from them. Even though Goldwater lost by a huge margin, his efforts paved the way for Ronald Reagan (his political “coming out” was a speech on behalf of Goldwater).

We have forgotten how we can change our country. We think we can put up a few conservatives and the Rhinos will just roll over and hand us the reins of the party. Of course, they are going to fight. Rather than look at what happened in MS (where I live)and other places, as a great defeat, we can see how far we have come. The key is to take control of the party. And to those who want to just leave the GOP we need to remember that the stakes are far too high to just let the Rats win and maintain power. We are too close to tyranny for the luxury of taking 8 to 10 years to build a “pure and the driven snow” party. I don't like Thad Cochran but I am going to hold my nose and vote for him nonetheless. And for you in KY and Kansas, how much good will it do if you stay home and the Rats win? For so many reasons, we need control of the Senate, if for no other reason that we can put some brakes on federal tyranny.

Vote November 4th! There's just too much at stake!

81 posted on 10/28/2014 8:30:59 AM PDT by gbscott1954 (Please come back Sarah!!!)
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To: gbscott1954
Vote November 4th!

Now, HERE'S a bandwagon I can happily jump onto!
82 posted on 10/28/2014 8:35:39 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
After the election is over, and after the Republicans have taken the Senate, and after not much still changes, some of us will remember the FR posters who asked that all conservative FReepers sell out to the Republican Party...again.

Maybe, but what about this?

After the election is over, and after the democrats keep the Senate, and after things get much worse--more totalitarianism and White House Executive Orders, complete and full amnesty of tens of millions of new democrat voters, more of not VOTING on ANY bills passed by the House, some of us will remember the FR posters who asked that all Republicans be defeated, to really show the GOPe/RINOs just how bad they are and not conservative enough ...again.

And Obama smugly smiles...

83 posted on 10/28/2014 8:38:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Resettozero

Sorry...guess I misunderstood!!! My error!!!


84 posted on 10/28/2014 8:41:53 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: Kaslin

Every Republican but Mitch McConnell. For the good of the nation, he must lose.


85 posted on 10/28/2014 8:42:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Kaslin

I have so much respect for you, and you do so much on this forum.

The unfortunate truth here is that the rebuttal to this can be rendered to a single word: Cochran.

He’s our Lautenberg, and Boss Hogg down in Mississippi is Exhibit A why we cannot continue to reward this behavior.

The courts are being used by the Executive (at the Fed AND State level) to rule by fiat. I don’t see that changing through the ballot box any more.

If you are going to make ANY kind of appeal to conservative voters, the only one left is this:

“Before we essentially agree that political representation and political reform is no longer possible through the ballot box, we should give the counterbalancing party one more chance.

If they don’t do what they’ve been elected to do, the alternative is going to be bloody.”

That’s what its come down to. It’s on that basis, and that basis alone, that I’d pull the lever for a Republican.

The only purity test I have for Republicans is this:

Read, understand and respect the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It’s not a ‘living document’. It’s the culmination of the learnings of 10,000 years of people ruling over people. With respect to the cultural forces, there is nothing new under the sun there either. Have a backbone.


86 posted on 10/28/2014 8:44:50 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Sorry...guess I misunderstood!!! My error!!!

Guess so.

BTW, it's your keyboard, but every sentence does NOT have to end with THREE exclamation points to be understood as important to you.
87 posted on 10/28/2014 9:09:55 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Alas Babylon!
...some of us will remember the FR posters who asked that all Republicans be defeated...

That's a lying exaggeration. Neither I nor any other conservative poster on this thread has advocated this. I've not seen evidence to support your hateful accusation on any other FR thread either...ever.

Not every registered user on FR is a Republican-at-all-costs. Some, such as I, never were. But you already knew that, didn't you.
88 posted on 10/28/2014 9:16:17 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
CORRECTION FOR POSTING RULES ALIGNMENT:

...some of us will remember the FR posters who asked that all Republicans be defeated...

That's an exaggeration. Neither I nor any other conservative poster on this thread has advocated this. I've not seen evidence to support your accusation on any other FR thread either...ever.

Not every registered user on FR is a Republican-at-all-costs. Some, such as I, never were. But you already knew that, didn't you.
89 posted on 10/28/2014 9:20:47 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Alas Babylon!
SECOND CORRECTION FOR PROPER ADDRESS TO POSTER:

...some of us will remember the FR posters who asked that all Republicans be defeated...

That's an exaggeration. Neither I nor any other conservative poster on this thread has advocated this. I've not seen evidence to support your accusation on any other FR thread either...ever.

Not every registered user on FR is a Republican-at-all-costs. Some, such as I, never were. But you already knew that, didn't you.
90 posted on 10/28/2014 9:23:10 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Kaslin
RE:”Maybe it is to you, who is obviously not getting it.”

BLA-BLA-BLA

91 posted on 10/28/2014 9:27:35 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

He already IS a lame duck, except for his Executive edicts, which neither party can touch.


92 posted on 10/28/2014 9:40:49 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Resettozero

You are entitiled to ur opinion...and, I am entitled to mine....have a nice life!!! End of story!!!


93 posted on 10/28/2014 9:42:21 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
You are entitiled to ur opinion...and, I am entitled to mine....have a nice life!!! End of story!!!

Not sure why you appear to be angry. Is it based only on my not pulling the straight R lever/button next Tuesday?

Or is it because of my criticizing your stupid and ignorant overuse of exclamation points?
94 posted on 10/28/2014 9:59:08 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Kaslin
In thirty years, the Establishment Republican platform will be the same as the current Democratic Party Platform.

No thank you. We need a revolution in the party. The only way that will happen is a revolt of the core base the Republicans always rely on.
95 posted on 10/28/2014 10:13:42 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: Resettozero

Well whose ox is being gored here?

I don’t remember any registered FReeper asking some one to “sell out” to the Republican Party, either...

Exaggerated words are typically thrown all around by ALL sides, don’t you think? But we only see the ones WE take offense to, and consider offensive things WE say as minor at best, and those who are offended by them as big babies...

But we both digress... My position has NEVER been that we sell out to the Republicans. My position is that the USA-hating/America destroying, baby-killing, Islamic caliphate loving, atheist-supporting/Christian/Jew hating of the democrats be opposed at every step. When the choices come down to only these two, I’ll vote AGAINST the democrats.

Time and again, I find all the caterwauling about how terrible the RINOs/GOPe are to be not nearly as terrible as what the average democrat has done to us.


96 posted on 10/28/2014 10:42:38 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Meanwhile, to increase or perhaps create their self esteem, many Freepers deny the existence of the GOPc, the conduit for real conservative energy. The conservative wing of the Republican party is the means for reaching conservative goals


97 posted on 10/28/2014 10:51:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Yosemitest; JLAGRAYFOX

You have GOT to see this... it’s ‘the awakening’...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSRZo1BE5o


98 posted on 10/28/2014 11:05:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (Obama would rather we die than offend West Africa. - freeper goldstategop (same for the CDC))
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To: bert

Absolutely agree, and that is who I support. My Senator Jeff Sessions, for example! :-)

However, I still vote against/oppose democrats everywhere and anywhere.

Early in my military career, there were conservative democrats, or at least pro-American democrats, such as Scoop Jackson or John Stennis, and as a military man I felt they had my back as much as anyone. But they are gone and the entire party, represented by such anti-Americans as Pelosi, Kooksinich, Obama, Holder, Warren, Boxer, Hillary, Dean, Lurch, etc., etc., have all kicked them out.

To that extent, I am left supporting Republicans, because the alternative IS killing the country... The country I love and vowed (and still do) through a sacred oath to defend to the death.

The time to oppose RINOs IS the primary. Every state in the Union had primaries, but this year, once again, voter turnout was dismal at best. I can only conclude that many stalwart conservatives stayed home, and typed their hatred of the GOPe on computer keyboards, but forgot to get in the car and go vote.

It doesn’t take much to search the web and find out what a particular state or district’s primary turnout was. Even in such states as Kentucky, where the Horrible Turtle Man, Mitch McConnell, was opposed by a TEA partier, had a 26 % turnout. Now how can conservatives win a general election if they don’t vote in the primary, in order to GET a candidate they can vote for?

So I think a lot of it is hot air and blow-hard-ism. I’m tired of hearing how awful the Republicans are without nary a remark about how awful the democrats are... People complain here all the time about the House of Representatives and how limp they are, but these guys have passed hundreds of good bills that have all been shot down in the Senate. Yet people are going on and on ad nauseum about Boehner—but not Reid. It is tiresome. I think they need to focus on the options we DO have, and vote accordingly.


99 posted on 10/28/2014 11:13:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: GOPJ
Thanks for the link.
I'll use it.
Have you seen or read this?
Be sure to back-track it, and read the links I provided in that back-track.
100 posted on 10/28/2014 11:43:52 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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