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To: Kaslin
Conservatives had hope.

Conservatives were already under the frigging bus.

The Republican Party, helped by massive voter fraud on the part of the Democrats, managed to pull defeat from the jaws of victory by dumping another steaming pile on those who would most ardently support it, even though many still did given the alternative was another 4 of Duh-1.

Why can't the "moderate" (liberal) wing of the Party ever vote Conservative? If all that matters to them is that an 'R' wins, that might work.

12 posted on 10/25/2014 5:45:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Why can't the "moderate" (liberal) wing of the Party ever vote Conservative?

Because they oppose what we want with every fiber of their being.

The ruling coalition is united around several things that the people are against. They are skilled at setting up phony issues (or issues that don’t concern the Federal government) to break up the formation of any possible other coalition.

Republicans and Democrats agree that the purpose of the State is redistribution. How much, and to whom, and under what circumstances, there are disagreements. But no elected officials of either Party believe that it is wrong to take from you and give to another of their own choosing, for reasons that make sense to them.

Republicans and Democrats agree that you have “rights” - lots of them. They also agree that any question ABOUT your “rights”, or whether or not something IS a “right”, should not be decided by a political process because that is “divisive”. So, they both agree that the voice of “the People” as contemplated in Articles IX and X can only be voiced by nine unelected life tenure judges, and that five of them, at any time or for any reason, can give new “rights” and take away old ones, particularly if those old ones arise out of majority voting.

Republicans and Democrats all believe in “diversity”. They, ignoring completely the results of all social science research on this subject, and contrary to millennia of human experience and wisdom, believe that the more “diverse” our country, its institutions, and any private entities within her become, the more cohesive and productive we will become.

Republicans and Democrats almost all believe in “free trade” and “immigration”. These things are good for various constituencies of both parties while they wreck the economy and the nation.

Many of the People, perhaps a majority, do not believe in any of these things. But in our existing system, captive as it is to the MSM-mandated “process” for choosing two candidates for POTUS neither of whom will change a thing, leaves the People with no voice.

The people who you call "liberal Republicans" will, almost always, support, caucus with, or vote for a socialist before they will vote for one of us.

That's why, at the end of the day, working AGAINST a third party is futile - because there is no second party.

The Republicans can win if we support them, but we can never win because they won't return the favor.

19 posted on 10/25/2014 6:19:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Why can’t the “moderate” (liberal) wing of the Party ever vote Conservative?”

They would, but first we have to get one nominated. To do that conservatives will have to get behind ONE candidate, and not piss away primary votes fringe turds like Ron Paul or others with no chance of winning.

Demanding closed primaries would be a good first step.


21 posted on 10/25/2014 6:20:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Interesting question. The reason the moderate/liberal wing of the Republican party cannot vote for conservatives is multiplied. First, realize that they are foremost, and proudly so, Progressives in heart, soul and mind and use the Republican label to hide their Utopian totalitarianism. Voting for a conservative would mean having to explain your vote at the club or over cocktails with only the finest of your fellow Progressives of both parties. Secondly, conservatism derails the eternal nature of failed Federal program spending engrossed by more and more government departments or agencies that exist at the Federal level in direct conflict with the Constitution dictates and that is an assault on their portfolios and refocuses government back to a local level where their manipulations are not so easily hidden. Thirdly, and maybe most importantly, they hated and still to this day hate Ronald Reagan because abandoning and actively working against Barry Goldwater in 1960 was insufficient in dissuading Southern and Western conservatives from continuing to participate in liberal Northeast Republican politics. Unfortunately, the party's leadership, successfully learning the socialist tendencies of the post Reagan Democrat party, quietly took over the reins of leadership and now their deep, multitiered level of control of the party is shown for what it is, an entrenched, profuse tentacled, tumor that requires requires radical surgery to remove. Hopefully, the conservatives in the House and Senate routs the top levels leaders in January and actually confronts and unwaveringly does not shrink from battling the imperial usurper of America.
24 posted on 10/25/2014 6:26:14 AM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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